Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964865AbWHQNz3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:55:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965019AbWHQNyu (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:54:50 -0400 Received: from caffeine.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:36507 "EHLO caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964865AbWHQNyg (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:54:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:54:31 -0400 To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Alan Cox , 7eggert@gmx.de, Arjan van de Ven , Dirk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: PATCH/FIX for drivers/cdrom/cdrom.c Message-ID: <20060817135431.GE13641@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <6Kxns-7AV-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <6Kytd-1g2-31@gated-at.bofh.it> <6KyCQ-1w7-25@gated-at.bofh.it> <1155821951.15195.85.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060817132309.GX13639@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <44E471F2.5000003@garzik.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44E471F2.5000003@garzik.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Lennart Sorensen X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1192 Lines: 26 On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 09:41:06AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Lennart Sorensen wrote: > >Why can't O_EXCL mean that the kernel prevents anyone else from issuing > >ioctl's to the device? One would think that is the meaning of exlusive. > >That way when the burning program opens the device with O_EXCL, no one > >else can screw it up while it is open. If it happens to be polled by > >hal when the burning program tries to open it, it can just wait and > >retry again until it gets it open. > > Such use of O_EXCL is a weird and non-standard behavior. So what method exists for opening a file/device an guaranteeing that nothing else can do anything to it? Looking an man 2 open, I can't even see any way O_EXCL even has a normal meaning for a device, so how much more "weird and non-standard" would it be to have it control exclusive access to a device? It appears it is only supposed to have a meaning for creating files. -- Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/