Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:16a7:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id gp39csp681850pxb; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 10:07:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxn6OdX87XT402YUN+j4qhGSMHi+KeXuxJK7ZNj/fnMtjgZctFlb+xAp455LyvUKID5bbaB X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:142c:: with SMTP id c12mr4059296edx.41.1604599640165; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 10:07:20 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1604599640; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=kX06tsaA3B/y2EswDoGqsY7rYk95lKFbcF1AXVTJC9KH47GsXUD/Q3Vrk5gClauI5o h7v5NXEf+CFX/6ntEdTfJj9pbDeVnrySZRQ8Ez84BanXvbMmdJIqpKFSM/9VGM4CTtKT eZ775qUyoptoZ0G3Bm7o6H+ayotObzTN4tS9NV8T5QbPYdIEO1/Qd1roZRBpW7nHXalL PqnEpwy34+bwYyPx/WlGUiXk1aes8HLZ2v/9vFD6iQ/5FjswJ0gH8Mr2KVMOHSc/prtJ PmRUNRg0loLG5R3B402uPbj/MlLhsWldcWKh98+ZuJ3bGoddErlgrXf1qCytUnIj8JI/ b95A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:message-id:date:subject:cc:to:from; bh=uUQKfIW6qtnt2Z9ZBhdnldFxeith3x8+60I0ACGV2Lg=; b=Lf8W06Vx7YIJNMNXL52kmFBqAM0KPf/OM/LOPLXEV8jOfu1URVFJ6v9LnaEVwKmPtr ak5filFvRlnTCU9XzNRcL7S1gAr5TGYDotE44m6waqc0FNIlCDMikMd8tqYHyja92ENE 9/fRuikuIVJP3MsAl5BfT9uHJ3w7gN87AEOknjvq7TPnfuXPzUK9L4kz3xWil4Pe3UlU cqSF/lyUwrKhiEJNIc/frmCK5tVBpK66XyB9sWBcu0aCe2wQd2ddJflkUQWrSVvxBjaU zAehQ59q3jCnfRa4lZPGStI11y9O3rY/HN5ekVTfL75UMtjcc+hiDaJkKTO8eDWzKaXU 2k1A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k4si1730843edr.153.2020.11.05.10.06.56; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 10:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1731919AbgKESDJ (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 5 Nov 2020 13:03:09 -0500 Received: from cloudserver094114.home.pl ([79.96.170.134]:61746 "EHLO cloudserver094114.home.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727275AbgKESDJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Nov 2020 13:03:09 -0500 Received: from 89-64-88-191.dynamic.chello.pl (89.64.88.191) (HELO kreacher.localnet) by serwer1319399.home.pl (79.96.170.134) with SMTP (IdeaSmtpServer 0.83.514) id 578330c461e38a78; Thu, 5 Nov 2020 19:02:46 +0100 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Mike Galbraith Cc: lkml , Peter Zijlstra , Linux PM Subject: Re: v5.8+ powersave governor breakage? Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 19:02:46 +0100 Message-ID: <2454708.LCoKzY5ALV@kreacher> In-Reply-To: <76661fbdbd31368c0a06cd58296f5ec12817e33c.camel@gmx.de> References: <580d12716f6363d7404805fd4bc50e2d5ab459b0.camel@gmx.de> <2948497.iyA2Nh11HS@kreacher> <76661fbdbd31368c0a06cd58296f5ec12817e33c.camel@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:08:30 PM CET Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Thu, 2020-11-05 at 15:31 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Monday, November 2, 2020 7:18:41 AM CET Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > > > Desktop box did, it gained a working ondemand, while its previously > > > working powersave went broke. > > > > Most likely that's because it was handled by intel_pstate in the "active" mode > > previously, while it is now handled by it in the "passive" mode... > > Perhaps the user interface should then nak switching to powersave as it > used to nak switching to ondemand? It cannot do that if the powersave governor is configured in. [Essentially, the problem is that the "powersave" thing advertised by intel_pstate in the "active" mode is not really the powersave governor, but that is a mistake made in the past and cannot be undone. Sorry about that.]