Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:43:37 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:43:27 -0500 Received: from quark.didntduck.org ([216.43.55.190]:40964 "EHLO quark.didntduck.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:43:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3BE1B3C5.E3D630D9@didntduck.org> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:42:45 -0500 From: Brian Gerst X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick LeRoy CC: "Jeffrey W. Baker" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: on exit xterm totally wrecks linux 2.4.11 to 2.4.14-pre6 (unkillable processes) In-Reply-To: <200111012035.fA1KZMG11816@schroeder.cs.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Nick LeRoy wrote: > > On Thursday 01 November 2001 14:13, you wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Nick LeRoy wrote: > > > Marked experiment, for now. What about when it's no longer > > > "experimental"? Configuring a kernel to enable such a feature should > > > *not* break applications, especially something as prolific as xterm. > > > > Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Devfs causes this > > problem because of a defect, not by design. It is marked experimental > > because it's loaded with such defects. Don't use it until the > > experimental tag is removed, if you are not prepared for some malfunction. > > Yeah, I think that I know what I'm talking about. The question was: Should > devfs be fixed, or should xterm be fixed. I don't know how serious it is, or > exactly what the nature of the problem is (haven't followed the thread that > closely), but, from the "mile high" point of view, this defect, be it design > or just a one-line bug, needs to be fixed before it can be tagged > "non-experimental". I don't understand why people would think otherwise, to > be honest. Fix devfs. If the kernel lets a user program crash it, it's a kernel bug. -- Brian Gerst - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/