Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422719AbWHSRIg (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:08:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422721AbWHSRIg (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:08:36 -0400 Received: from web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.85.20]:46164 "HELO web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1422720AbWHSRIf (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 13:08:35 -0400 Message-ID: <20060819170834.17845.qmail@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-RocketYMMF: rancidfat Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey Schaufler Reply-To: casey@schaufler-ca.com Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] file posix capabilities To: Crispin Cowan Cc: lkml , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <44E6714C.3090707@novell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1135 Lines: 38 --- Crispin Cowan wrote: > > At least some of the Linux capabilities lend > themselves to easy > > privilege escalation to gaining other capabilities > or effectively > > bypassing them. > > > Certainly; cap_sys_admin effectively gives you > ownership of the machine. > But that is fundamental to the POSIX Capabilities > model, and not > something that Serge can change. In turn it is fundamental to the curious granularity of privileged operations in Unix. I maintain that the real value in the POSIX capability model derives from seperating the permission to violate policy from the UID. Granularity of such privilege is a bonus, and a matter of considerable debate. DGUX ended up with over 330 distinct capabilities, while Irix had (last I looked) 24, and Solaris came in somewhere between. All these systems work. Casey Schaufler casey@schaufler-ca.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/