Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751473AbWHTDUq (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:20:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751482AbWHTDUq (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:20:46 -0400 Received: from relay02.pair.com ([209.68.5.16]:61701 "HELO relay02.pair.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751473AbWHTDUp (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Aug 2006 23:20:45 -0400 X-pair-Authenticated: 71.197.50.189 From: Chase Venters To: Helge Hafting Subject: Re: GPL Violation? Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:20:19 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 Cc: David Schwartz , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" References: <1155919950.30279.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060819113052.GC3190@aitel.hist.no> In-Reply-To: <20060819113052.GC3190@aitel.hist.no> Organization: Clientec, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608192220.42456.chase.venters@clientec.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1785 Lines: 37 On Saturday 19 August 2006 06:30, Helge Hafting wrote: > Now, if someone actually distributes a closed-source module that > circumvents EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, or relies on an accompagnying > open source patch that removes the mechanism, this happens: > > 1. By doing this, they clearly showed that their module is outside the > gray area of "allowed binary-only modules". They definitively > made a "derived work" and distributed it. > > 2. Anybody who received this module may now invoke the GPL > (and the force of law, if necessary) to extract the > module source code from the maker. And then this source > can be freely redistributed to all interested. Actually, you can't just force the vendor to open up all of their source code. The GPL isn't a contract - it's a license. If a vendor makes a derived work from the Linux kernel and does not GPL-license said derived work, they are indeed violating copyright as the license the GPL provides no longer supports their ability to redistribute. However, the court decides what happens to the vendor. The court might force the vendor to open up their code, but to my knowledge this would be breaking brand new ground. I think it is more likely that the plaintiff could be awarded monetary damages and the defendant enjoined from further redistribution. The charge is not "violating the GPL" (since the GPL is not a contract) -- it's distributing copyrighted materials without a license. See Eben Moglen's discussion on this subject for more details. Thanks, Chase - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/