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([2601:647:4802:9070:be97:ffd:339d:919c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a84sm10727208pfa.53.2020.11.13.13.36.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:36:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [PATCH] iosched: Add i10 I/O Scheduler To: Jens Axboe , Rachit Agarwal , Christoph Hellwig Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Keith Busch , Ming Lei , Jaehyun Hwang , Qizhe Cai , Midhul Vuppalapati , Rachit Agarwal , Sagi Grimberg , Rachit Agarwal References: <20201112140752.1554-1-rach4x0r@gmail.com> <5a954c4e-aa84-834d-7d04-0ce3545d45c9@kernel.dk> <10993ce4-7048-a369-ea44-adf445acfca7@grimberg.me> From: Sagi Grimberg Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:36:16 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> But if you think this has a better home, I'm assuming that the guys >> will be open to that. > > Also see the reply from Ming. It's a balancing act - don't want to add > extra overhead to the core, but also don't want to carry an extra > scheduler if the main change is really just variable dispatch batching. > And since we already have a notion of that, seems worthwhile to explore > that venue. I agree, The main difference is that this balancing is not driven from device resource pressure, but rather from an assumption of device specific optimization (and also with a specific optimization target), hence a scheduler a user would need to opt-in seemed like a good compromise. But maybe Ming has some good ideas on a different way to add it..