Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:16a7:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id gp39csp1500276pxb; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:37:02 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwJilUFHlPCNXKMcIgLSbDxL+Vz5bho6ZBh1NlMYTDbwryn1nY86JBXZEWdNIWAh5bT89eI X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:947:: with SMTP id h7mr4884940edz.85.1605307022477; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:37:02 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1605307022; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=FEoeI8zA+AFjQ01S06zHm5YZfyc2lk2qHgU8KtkkOTlZHDRo17DLDLsHuf0M/7UCFQ ozgXGCg1PboI2LjTxy8IecQjzQqjcbCKkoyQQL+AoeNnQNiKfKMpoXdHCSXSXDvVpUae O7RGAY7QfBSmlYTAtbdIekXbfeX1p39VIdPQPTafIpIg1JxDIO+lntBGgKWML9ij4fs7 akrE6r/7QJQS4ESfXcw+LknvIzOI1KX+7GQU6+XZWPKkVkLkoGVZdoLwZA+Zfj1FHtaR YBm6DA2/LWYsdRw/afSOV8niJn2xI5k5FRAKv/uuO3cPwahwJ7DRRSrEVZg0J1WxcF14 0ylg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :organization:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from :date; bh=qHyqoFygvNfJ92zM59AF3OoPhlM5yH7W7ZLOMED0Yeo=; b=dcIV0voKpio/96myO4drcaG4En6+eXIe639IwPtKW33Ce075n/BDhQLRju7aiuh5ac bKD1tlEJpsDd5O19X+CYuPEUr1h15nQ7UUAUIJpLUObrRMRtiZVRyo2udKMzNh4/lxPZ gqWC9DesieWb8wyoC3rcj+dksmRfQNpeHQlLqzl446bXEeiPF2ww8mkv9eK6yJ7nhUSw hWEN7vSAAVOhhZpubOjoxOmKy/tDiKhnORGfI4XvuUEdeLoCLGyg8b69CveDdUKw4wTX r0Y5tt4RdQx5kTFe2G1e8jLunVLzI521b1ZJ9BeCsLjFQCVX8FQNxs1uoHd9mNepYlNZ EkQA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k20si7572086edk.392.2020.11.13.14.36.39; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726182AbgKMWdT (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:33:19 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:51002 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726090AbgKMWdR (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:33:17 -0500 Received: from ms.lwn.net (ms.lwn.net [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:3a1::42]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77D89C0613D1; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B0BF734; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 22:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:33:13 -0700 From: Jonathan Corbet To: Thorsten Leemhuis Cc: Randy Dunlap , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/26] Make reporting-bugs easier to grasp and yet more detailed & helpful Message-ID: <20201113153313.68ff210c@lwn.net> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: LWN.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 18:58:37 +0100 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > This series rewrites the "how to report bugs to the Linux kernel > maintainers" document to make it more straight forward and its essence > easier to grasp. At the same time make the text provide a lot more details > about the process in form of a reference section, so users that want or > need to know them have them at hand. > > The goal of this rewrite: improve the quality of the bug reports and > reduce the number of reports that get ignored. This was motivated by many > reports of poor quality the submitter noticed while looking after Linux > kernel regression tracking many moons ago. So I've not had a chance to try to read through the whole thing again, will try to do so in the near future. As for how to proceed...getting others to review this is going to be a bit of a challenge. Perhaps the right approach is to just merge the new document under a new name - reporting-bugs-the-novel.txt or something - then try to get a few people to look at specific parts of it? Once all seems well we can rename it over the old document and call it done. Make sense? Thanks, jon