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Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:35:12 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3f8cc7c9462353ac2eef58e39beee079bdd9c7b4.camel@linux.ibm.com> Subject: Re: [RESEND][PATCH] ima: Set and clear FMODE_CAN_READ in ima_calc_file_hash() From: Mimi Zohar To: Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig Cc: Roberto Sassu , "linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Silviu Vlasceanu , "stable@vger.kernel.org" , "viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk" , "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 13:35:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <20201113080132.16591-1-roberto.sassu@huawei.com> <20201114111057.GA16415@infradead.org> <0fd0fb3360194d909ba48f13220f9302@huawei.com> <20201116162202.GA15010@infradead.org> <20201116174127.GA4578@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-12.el8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.312,18.0.737 definitions=2020-11-16_09:2020-11-13,2020-11-16 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=631 clxscore=1015 priorityscore=1501 suspectscore=3 impostorscore=0 spamscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011160106 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 10:09 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:41 AM Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > > The "issue" with IMA is that it uses security hooks to hook into the > > VFS and then wants to read every file that gets opened on a real file > > system to "measure" the contents vs a hash stashed away somewhere. > > Well, but that's easy enough to handle: if the open isn't a read open, > then the old contents don't matter, so you shouldn't bother to measure > the file. > > So this literally sounds like a "doctor, doctor, it hurts when I hit > my head with a hammer" situation.. We need to differentiate between signed files, which by definition are immutable, and those that are mutable. Appending to a mutable file, for example, would result in the file hash not being updated. Subsequent reads would fail. Mimi