Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932135AbWH2DTj (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:19:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932130AbWH2DTj (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:19:39 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:32719 "EHLO ciao.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932135AbWH2DTi (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:19:38 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Oleg Verych Subject: Re: [PATCH] MODULE_FIRMWARE for binary firmware(s) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:19:28 +0200 Organization: Palacky University in Olomouc, experimental physics dep. Message-ID: <44F3C050.4030002@flower.upol.cz> References: <1156802900.3465.30.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <1156803102.3465.34.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <20060828230452.GA4393@powerlinux.fr> <44F38BCE.2080108@flower.upol.cz> <1156809344.3465.41.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <44F3A355.6090408@flower.upol.cz> <20060829015103.GA28162@kroah.com> <20060829031430.GA9820@flower.upol.cz> <20060829024901.GA32426@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 158.194.192.153 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060607 Debian/1.7.12-1.2 X-Accept-Language: en In-Reply-To: <20060829024901.GA32426@kroah.com> Cc: debian-kernel@lists.debian.org Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2171 Lines: 48 Greg KH wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 05:14:30AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > >>On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 06:51:03PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: >> >>>On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 04:15:49AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: >>> >>>>>>request_firmware() is dead also. >>>>>>YMMV, but three years, and there are still big chunks of binary in kernel. >>>>>>And please don't add new useless info _in_ it. >>>> >>>>Hell, what can be as easy as this: >>>>,- >>>>|modprobe $drv >>>>|(dd /dev/blobs && echo OK) || echo Error >>>>`- >>>>where /dev/blobs is similar to /dev/port or even /dev/null char device. >>>>if synchronization is needed, add `echo $drv >/dev/blobs`, remove modprobe, >>> ... > >>I'm nether a CS nor software engineer, just wondering why simple thing isn't >>simple _in_ the Kernel. I'm reading list "just for fun (C)" and any good word >>about this (IMHO) unix-way design *may* lead professional programmers to do >>tiny worthy things (think about kevent discussion). >>If it's (i'm) stupid, please, say so (in the way Nicholas Miell did ;). > > I don't think it's workable, and goes against the current way the kernel > does things. But please, feel free to prove me wrong with a patch > otherwise. I don't want to debate it otherwise. > Thanks, and OK, this is my last reply on this. > I think the current way we handle firmware works quite well, especially > given the wide range of different devices that it works for (everything > from BIOS upgrades to different wireless driver stages). > Oh, come on, even skilled developers (not particular kernel's) having difficulties with current hotplug-sysfs-modprobe thing; in this case one couldn't easily figure out problems and way to solve them Goodbye. -- -o--=O`C /. .\ (+) #oo'L O o | <___=E M ^-- | (you're barking up the wrong tree) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/