Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964856AbWH2J6S (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:58:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964875AbWH2J6S (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:58:18 -0400 Received: from pop5-1.us4.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.125]:48051 "HELO pop5-1.us4.outblaze.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S964856AbWH2J6R (ORCPT ); Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:58:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression From: Nigel Cunningham To: David Masover Cc: Jan Engelhardt , Edward Shishkin , Stefan Traby , Hans Reiser , Alexey Dobriyan , reiserfs-list@namesys.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton In-Reply-To: <44F3F993.3000907@slaphack.com> References: <20060827003426.GB5204@martell.zuzino.mipt.ru> <44F322A6.9020200@namesys.com> <20060828173721.GA11332@hello-penguin.com> <44F332D6.6040209@namesys.com> <1156801705.2969.6.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1156830102.3790.15.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <44F3F993.3000907@slaphack.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:57:45 +1000 Message-Id: <1156845465.3790.38.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3882 Lines: 94 Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 03:23 -0500, David Masover wrote: > Nigel Cunningham wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 06:05 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >>>>>> Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by > >>>>>> the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having very > >>>>>> low CPU usage (the best of those written and GPL'd, there is a slightly > >>>>>> better one which is proprietary and uses more CPU, LZRW if I remember > >>>>>> right. The gzip code base uses too much CPU, though I think Edward made > >>>>> I don't think that LZO beats LZF in both speed and compression ratio. > >>>>> > >>>>> LZF is also available under GPL (dual-licensed BSD) and was choosen in favor > >>>>> of LZO for the next generation suspend-to-disk code of the Linux kernel. > >>>>> > >>>>> see: http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/liblzf.html > >>>> thanks for the info, we will compare them > >>> For Suspend2, we ended up converting the LZF support to a cryptoapi > >>> plugin. Is there any chance that you could use cryptoapi modules? We > >>> could then have a hope of sharing the support. > >> I am throwing in gzip: would it be meaningful to use that instead? The > >> decoder (inflate.c) is already there. > >> > >> 06:04 shanghai:~/liblzf-1.6 > l configure* > >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 jengelh users 154894 Mar 3 2005 configure > >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 jengelh users 26810 Mar 3 2005 configure.bz2 > >> -rw-r--r-- 1 jengelh users 30611 Aug 28 20:32 configure.gz-z9 > >> -rw-r--r-- 1 jengelh users 30693 Aug 28 20:32 configure.gz-z6 > >> -rw-r--r-- 1 jengelh users 53077 Aug 28 20:32 configure.lzf > > > > We used gzip when we first implemented compression support, and found it > > to be far too slow. Even with the fastest compression options, we were > > only getting a few megabytes per second. Perhaps I did something wrong > > in configuring it, but there's not that many things to get wrong! > > All that comes to mind is the speed/quality setting -- the number from 1 > to 9. Recently, I backed up someone's hard drive using -1, and I > believe I was still able to saturate... the _network_. Definitely try > again if you haven't changed this, but I can't imagine I'm the first > persson to think of it. > > From what I remember, gzip -1 wasn't faster than the disk. But at > least for (very) repetitive data, I was wrong: > > eve:~ sanity$ time bash -c 'dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=10m count=10; sync' > 10+0 records in > 10+0 records out > 104857600 bytes transferred in 3.261990 secs (32145287 bytes/sec) > > real 0m3.746s > user 0m0.005s > sys 0m0.627s > eve:~ sanity$ time bash -c 'dd if=/dev/zero bs=10m count=10 | gzip -v1 > > test; sync' > 10+0 records in > 10+0 records out > 104857600 bytes transferred in 2.404093 secs (43616282 bytes/sec) > 99.5% > > real 0m2.558s > user 0m1.554s > sys 0m0.680s > eve:~ sanity$ > > > > This was on OS X, but I think it's still valid -- this is a slightly > older Powerbook, with a 5400 RPM drive, 1.6 ghz G4. > > -1 is still worlds better than nothing. The backup was over 15 gigs, > down to about 6 -- loads of repetitive data, I'm sure, but that's where > you win with compression anyway. Wow. That's a lot better; I guess I did get something wrong in trying to tune deflate. That was pre-cryptoapi though; looking at cryptoapi/deflate.c, I don't see any way of controlling the compression level. Am I missing anything? > Well, you use cryptoapi anyway, so it should be easy to just let the > user pick a plugin, right? Right. They can already pick deflate if they want to. Regards, Nigel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/