Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751199AbWH3S1A (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:27:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751299AbWH3S07 (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:26:59 -0400 Received: from warden-p.diginsite.com ([208.29.163.248]:32194 "HELO warden.diginsite.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751199AbWH3S07 (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:26:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:20:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@dlang.diginsite.com To: Sven Luther cc: Olaf Hering , Michael Buesch , Greg KH , Oleg Verych , James Bottomley , debian-kernel@lists.debian.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] MODULE_FIRMWARE for binary firmware(s) In-Reply-To: <20060830181310.GA11213@powerlinux.fr> Message-ID: References: <1156802900.3465.30.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <20060829183208.GA11468@kroah.com> <200608292104.24645.mb@bu3sch.de> <20060829201314.GA28680@aepfle.de> <20060830054433.GA31375@aepfle.de> <20060830181310.GA11213@powerlinux.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1564 Lines: 47 On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 10:52:02AM -0700, David Lang wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Olaf Hering wrote: >> >>>> you are assuming that >>>> >>>> 1. modules are enabled and ipw2200 is compiled as a module >>> >>> No, why? >> >> becouse if the ipw isn't compiled as a module then it's initialized >> (without firmware) before the initramfs or initrd is run. if it could be >> initialized later without being a module then it could be initialized as >> part of the normal system > > Euh, ... > > I wonder why you need to initialize the ipw2200 module so early ? It was my > understanding that the initramfs thingy was run very early in the process, and > i had even thought of moving fbdev modules into it. > > Do you really need to bring up ipw2200 so early ? It is some kind of wireless > device, right ? if modules are not in use the device is initialized when the kernel starts up. this is before any userspace starts. > As for initramfs, you can just cat it behind the kernel, and it should work > just fine, or at least this is how it was supposed to work. yes, if I want to set one up. other then this new requirement to have the ipw2200 driver as a module I have no reason to use one. normal userspace is good enough for me. David Lang > Friendly, > > Sven Luther > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/