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From:   Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] add simple copy support
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On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:25:12AM +0000, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 2020/12/04 20:02, SelvaKumar S wrote:
> > This patchset tries to add support for TP4065a ("Simple Copy Command"),
> > v2020.05.04 ("Ratified")
> > 
> > The Specification can be found in following link.
> > https://nvmexpress.org/wp-content/uploads/NVM-Express-1.4-Ratified-TPs-1.zip
> > 
> > This is an RFC. Looking forward for any feedbacks or other alternate
> > designs for plumbing simple copy to IO stack.
> > 
> > Simple copy command is a copy offloading operation and is  used to copy
> > multiple contiguous ranges (source_ranges) of LBA's to a single destination
> > LBA within the device reducing traffic between host and device.
> > 
> > This implementation accepts destination, no of sources and arrays of
> > source ranges from application and attach it as payload to the bio and
> > submits to the device.
> > 
> > Following limits are added to queue limits and are exposed in sysfs
> > to userspace
> > 	- *max_copy_sectors* limits the sum of all source_range length
> > 	- *max_copy_nr_ranges* limits the number of source ranges
> > 	- *max_copy_range_sectors* limit the maximum number of sectors
> > 		that can constitute a single source range.
> 
> Same comment as before. I think this is a good start, but for this to be really
> useful to users and kernel components alike, this really needs copy emulation
> for drives that do not have a native copy feature, similarly to what write zeros
> handling for instance: if the drive does not have a copy command (simple copy
> for NVMe or XCOPY for scsi), then the block layer should issue read/write
> commands to seamlessly execute the copy. Otherwise, this will only serve a small
> niche for users and will not be optimal for FS and DM drivers that could be
> simplified with a generic block layer copy functionality.
> 
> This is my 10 cents though, others may differ about this.

Yes, I agree that copy emulation support should be included with the
hardware enabled solution.