Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751621AbWH3XPw (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:15:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751629AbWH3XPw (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:15:52 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:8387 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751621AbWH3XPv (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:15:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:15:37 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Crispin Cowan Cc: David Safford , Serge E Hallyn , Mimi Zohar , David Safford , kjhall@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel , LSM ML , linux-security-module-owner@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 8/8] SLIM: documentation Message-ID: <20060830231537.GL3923@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20060817230213.GA18786@elf.ucw.cz> <20060824054933.GA1952@elf.ucw.cz> <20060824130340.GB15680@sergelap.austin.ibm.com> <20060824131127.GB7052@elf.ucw.cz> <1156442454.2476.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060826101140.GE10257@elf.ucw.cz> <44F4DF11.20205@novell.com> <20060830225950.GI3923@elf.ucw.cz> <44F61B2E.5090603@novell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44F61B2E.5090603@novell.com> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1386 Lines: 30 On Wed 2006-08-30 16:11:42, Crispin Cowan wrote: > Pavel Machek wrote: > >> The Windows problem is foolish users who download something shiny, such > >> as enhanced emoticons or a keen password caching mechanism (e.g. Gator) > >> or games (as in David's example) which turns out to be spyware. Under > >> David's demo, you can download and run the spyware, but it doesn't get > >> access to the critical system files that make spyware so difficult to > >> remove. > >> > > Well, it gets access to my browser, which contains most of the stuff > > spyware is interested in, anyway. > > > It gets access to the data, but doesn't get to insert itself into > important system files. An important attribute of spyware is that it is > hard to remove, and this makes the "hard to remove" property much harder > to achieve. As I wrote in my previous email, yes, it makes it easier to remove. Thinking about it, it may also make it hard to survive login/logout; which is actually good point. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/