Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932490AbWIAAkn (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:40:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932500AbWIAAkn (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:40:43 -0400 Received: from xenotime.net ([66.160.160.81]:57829 "HELO xenotime.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932499AbWIAAkn (ORCPT ); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:40:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:44:08 -0700 From: "Randy.Dunlap" To: Andrew Morton Cc: Pavel Machek , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , kernel list Subject: Re: prevent swsusp with PAE Message-Id: <20060831174408.5ef9a143.rdunlap@xenotime.net> In-Reply-To: <20060831171615.6a420025.akpm@osdl.org> References: <20060831135336.GL3923@elf.ucw.cz> <20060831104304.e3514401.akpm@osdl.org> <20060831223521.GB31125@elf.ucw.cz> <20060831154828.4313327c.akpm@osdl.org> <20060831225232.GE31125@elf.ucw.cz> <20060831160546.3309d745.rdunlap@xenotime.net> <20060831171615.6a420025.akpm@osdl.org> Organization: YPO4 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.10; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1586 Lines: 39 On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:16:15 -0700 Andrew Morton wrote: > On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:05:46 -0700 > "Randy.Dunlap" wrote: > > > > > I think what this really points at is a weakness in the menuconfig/xconfig/etc > > > > user interfaces. It should be possible to navigate to the presently-disabled > > > > config option and ask it "why can't I turn you on?". > > > > > > Yes, but I'll still have users asking me "why I can't turn it on" ;-). > > > > menuconfig and xconfig both have Help and Search that can aid > > with that, but I would still use the "comment" keyword also. > > Help and Search options aren't much use if you cannot see the option and if > you do not know that it exists. > > A better UI design would be to show the unselectable option in some > dimmed-out fashion and then provide an interface which permits the user to > > a) query the item to find out why it's not selectable and > > b) turn on the depends-on option(s) at the present site, thus making the > present item selectable (ie: not dimmed any more). > > I dont't think any of that would require any Kconfig changes - it's purely > a UI thing? Probably. xconfig already has this ability/feature. I enable/use it all the time. menuconfig could probably be taught how to do it also. (and gconfig seems to be orphaned) --- ~Randy - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/