Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932460AbWIDHnj (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:43:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932464AbWIDHni (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:43:38 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:50152 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932460AbWIDHng (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Sep 2006 03:43:36 -0400 Message-ID: <44FBD91B.2080600@garzik.org> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:43:23 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Wedgwood CC: Andrew Morton , sergio@sergiomb.no-ip.org, bjorn.helgaas@hp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox , greg@kroah.com, harmon@ksu.edu, Daniel Drake , Len Brown Subject: Re: VIA IRQ quirk, another (embarrassing) suggestion. References: <1157330567.3046.24.camel@localhost.portugal> <20060903175841.7a84c63c.akpm@osdl.org> <44FBBD28.6070601@garzik.org> <20060904055502.GA26816@tuatara.stupidest.org> In-Reply-To: <20060904055502.GA26816@tuatara.stupidest.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.3 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.3 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1065 Lines: 30 Chris Wedgwood wrote: > Now, failing that, Jeff, what about if we try to use ACPI to detect if > the PCI device is on-board or a plug-in card? If we did and ignored > them would that satisfy you? > > Yes, I know this is yet-another horrible heuristic and might not work > in all cases, but I think we need to aim to get the majority of > systems broken working pretty promptly. As Andrew said, this really > is quire embarrassing right now. It's not a question of me being satisfied or embarrassed. The only question is what works for all cases. My guess is that we need more complex logic to detect which devices are truly on-board. Unfortunately for us, PCI cards with VIA SATA or VIA ethernet exist, so we cannot continue the current scheme of device ID enumeration either. Jeff -- VGER BF report: H 0 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/