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From:   Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>
Date:   Sat, 2 Jan 2021 12:26:30 +0100
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Subject: Re: Linux 5.11-rc1
To:     Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at>
Cc:     Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
        Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 12:05 PM Bernd Petrovitsch
<bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2021-01-02 at 10:13 +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> [...]
> > To be honest I wondered why there were no more reports on this.
>
> Perhaps I'm not the only one who has /sbin and /usr/sbin in the
> $PATH of normal accounts too (and idk what's the default
> behaviour of distributions is - my .bashrc "fixes" the
> $PATH).
>

I was thinking more towards maxim/dictum:
"Never break userspace!" or "It worked before but now it is not."

Think of automated kernel build and test setups based on Debian.

Debian/testing AMD64 has...

[ /etc/login.defs ]

# *REQUIRED*  The default PATH settings, for superuser and normal users.
#
# (they are minimal, add the rest in the shell startup files)
ENV_SUPATH
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
ENV_PATH        PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

IMHO users should not need to fix their environment.
( The discussion is a bit obsolete as we now have a fix. )

- Sedat -