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Biederman) To: Al Viro Cc: David Laight , Christoph Hellwig , "linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" , X86 ML References: <20210104165827.GJ3579531@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 14:41:01 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20210104165827.GJ3579531@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (Al Viro's message of "Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:58:27 +0000") Message-ID: <87sg7gfnaa.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-XM-SPF: eid=1kwWfr-00AU8p-E8;;;mid=<87sg7gfnaa.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>;;;hst=in02.mta.xmission.com;;;ip=68.227.160.95;;;frm=ebiederm@xmission.com;;;spf=neutral X-XM-AID: U2FsdGVkX1+scTNiGNXtrfeAZS1zmWGR6aBMcS6Ssb4= X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 68.227.160.95 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ebiederm@xmission.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on sa07.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_40, DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * -0.0 BAYES_40 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 20 to 40% * [score: 0.3117] * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: No description available. * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa07 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1] X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa07 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: ;Al Viro X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Timing: total 553 ms - load_scoreonly_sql: 0.06 (0.0%), signal_user_changed: 11 (1.9%), b_tie_ro: 9 (1.7%), parse: 1.11 (0.2%), extract_message_metadata: 12 (2.1%), get_uri_detail_list: 1.71 (0.3%), tests_pri_-1000: 4.4 (0.8%), tests_pri_-950: 1.22 (0.2%), tests_pri_-900: 0.95 (0.2%), tests_pri_-90: 113 (20.4%), check_bayes: 111 (20.1%), b_tokenize: 6 (1.2%), b_tok_get_all: 8 (1.4%), b_comp_prob: 2.4 (0.4%), b_tok_touch_all: 91 (16.5%), b_finish: 0.91 (0.2%), tests_pri_0: 238 (43.0%), check_dkim_signature: 0.54 (0.1%), check_dkim_adsp: 2.2 (0.4%), poll_dns_idle: 155 (28.1%), tests_pri_10: 2.0 (0.4%), tests_pri_500: 167 (30.2%), rewrite_mail: 0.00 (0.0%) Subject: Re: in_compat_syscall() on x86 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:53:50 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in02.mta.xmission.com) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Al Viro writes: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 12:16:56PM +0000, David Laight wrote: >> On x86 in_compat_syscall() is defined as: >> in_ia32_syscall() || in_x32_syscall() >> >> Now in_ia32_syscall() is a simple check of the TS_COMPAT flag. >> However in_x32_syscall() is a horrid beast that has to indirect >> through to the original %eax value (ie the syscall number) and >> check for a bit there. >> >> So on a kernel with x32 support (probably most distro kernels) >> the in_compat_syscall() check is rather more expensive than >> one might expect. I suggest you check the distro kernels. I suspect they don't compile in support for x32. As far as I can tell x32 is an undead beast of a subarchitecture that just enough people use that it can't be removed, but few enough people use it likely has a few lurking scary bugs. >> It would be muck better if both checks could be done together. >> I think this would require the syscall entry code to set a >> value in both the 64bit and x32 entry paths. >> (Can a process make both 64bit and x32 system calls?) > > Yes, it bloody well can. > > And I see no benefit in pushing that logics into syscall entry, > since anything that calls in_compat_syscall() more than once > per syscall execution is doing the wrong thing. Moreover, > in quite a few cases we don't call the sucker at all, and for > all of those pushing that crap into syscall entry logics is > pure loss. The x32 system calls have their own system call table and it would be trivial to set a flag like TS_COMPAT when looking up a system call from that table. I expect such a change would be purely in the noise. > What's the point, really? Before we came up with the current games with __copy_siginfo_to_user and x32_copy_siginfo_to_user I was wondering if we should make such a change. The delivery of compat signal frames and core dumps which do not go through the system call entry path could almost benefit from a flag that could be set/tested when on those paths. The fact that only SIGCHLD (which can not trigger a coredump) is different saves the coredump code from needing such a test. The fact that the signal frame code is simple enough it can directly call x32_copy_siginfo_to_user or __copy_siginfo_to_user saves us there. So I don't think we have any cases where we actually need a flag that is independent of the system call but we have come very close. For people who want to optimize I suggest tracking down the handful of users of x32 and see if x32 can be made to just go away. Eric