Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750759AbWIHO0H (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:26:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750758AbWIHO0H (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:26:07 -0400 Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca ([64.7.153.18]:55013 "EHLO smarthost1.sentex.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750753AbWIHO0D (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:26:03 -0400 From: "Stuart MacDonald" To: "'Chase Venters'" Cc: "'Krzysztof Halasa'" , , "'Willy Tarreau'" , Subject: RE: [OT] RE: bogofilter ate 3/5 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:25:33 -0400 Organization: Connect Tech Inc. Message-ID: <09c201c6d352$a86d1d20$294b82ce@stuartm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1650 Lines: 39 From: Chase Venters [mailto:chase.venters@clientec.com] > Indeed. Let me make one final point then. If you think this issue is > important, you might start by asking the administrators of I think it's important enough that LKML shouldn't be introducing new autorespond behaviour if it can be avoided. Quite often I play Devil's Advocate in a debate. I brought up the point that autoresponders are often considered spam, you seemed to take a hardline position that autoresponds are necessary and cannot ever be removed, so I took the opposing hardline position. Makes the debate interesting. Personally I consider all Virus, bounce and deferral messages, that are generated by email I did not send aka had my address forged, to be spam. There are valid alternate methods that avoid the requirement of sending those types of messages. I ignore mailing list join-up confirmation messages. Those are necessary as there's no other way to confirm an address wants to join. I ignore the first vacation message, but if I get multiples within a week, then I report that. The vast majority of my spam besides actual spam are bounces. Virus autoresponders used to be common but have stopped. I notice a correlation between the end of virus responses and SpamCop accepting them as spam. Mailing lists and vacation notices are very rare in practice. ..Stu PS. Still waiting for your snail mail address. :-) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/