Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:2785:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id ia5csp545257pxb; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:23:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwhhWa3AGagYIkNo7PeSso2ATf92TYSQ86BGD1ScAVLgPIlnOTObIPs17YILg6B6uNuABPd X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:b2da:: with SMTP id cf26mr3732981ejb.176.1610133805214; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:23:25 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1610133805; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=zq0x5Uw2CVzICs/WlamyRktG0BGG57OvJQtWOe1P83rMN4XXx0hJNJmi6ank0HsyOL XJ/eHEMSCIiVKQBa7zwZrldDTmB311q8sWvvMTaeEpgmmS7MHzutHCnD5w3/60jd/dzA 7+GHwJSZPgpWDSCpZO/58l4NNb0vXVJQLQJXUUq9sB0hidAUSkH9rN4pNnO/TpMEQP6F FReEc+UaKCeTK1bB800HWqMk3yIIwOLEjPsKplnMOVC44nCmOuUnN0dxGJ9fy40H44w1 FA5HaqYTVE5Sb4GJIGisFhw5J9SjABR+bYrSbZSxJMCM6aEd/t890LDBPtYcrfChzmqV DdNw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:mime-version:message-id:date:in-reply-to:subject :cc:to:from:user-agent; bh=9RPUqLEgZh7Gls7NURFZiof1/a/8LquhQr8DqFJS4EQ=; b=M+eA8ebuqFTlOJoJs8bcRsEua0Hgpsgl5exEGRFyOgCqJv8TPIEifLiTnJMxo5VWSH qsaPH2G+AN/UYmvn0/hU2X7fjliKXOCC2aiisoa8OG5sAxTlUbEKtROXE9H9kRoqqxql vlAO1kafpFaex1HNKEaxnvbNU1jbR4C4Otlo4dQQyXvj+Aa+3zMKeoOOCL3pqO9wQ9Kh Feh7jwJshTqXbUC4IUd3SIwCZ04OZekdAqtXc9BBYjU/p6Bog1qrRg+/fftLilclolVj vz13BUd5Jvvs9DuTsWv9EglFJtu6sG7j5BZMFr703lYxFMvjtkWhJdpNZIwF2q1+CACw J4OA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id yd29si3839613ejb.741.2021.01.08.11.22.42; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728655AbhAHTVX (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:21:23 -0500 Received: from vps.thesusis.net ([34.202.238.73]:44312 "EHLO vps.thesusis.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727919AbhAHTVW (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:21:22 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 447 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 14:21:22 EST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vps.thesusis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42A02739C; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from vps.thesusis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vps.thesusis.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dagrAE_vPef1; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by vps.thesusis.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 85FF72739B; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:13:14 -0500 (EST) User-agent: mu4e 1.5.7; emacs 26.3 From: Phillip Susi To: Pavel Machek Cc: Linus Torvalds , Randy Dunlap , LKML , "linux-doc\@vger.kernel.org" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Daniel Vetter Subject: Re: fbcon: remove soft scrollback code (missing Doc. patch) In-Reply-To: <20200916205434.GA10389@duo.ucw.cz> Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 14:01:31 -0500 Message-ID: <87czyf5jjp.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Could we pause this madness? Scrollback is still useful. I needed it > today... it was too small, so command results I was looking for > already scrolled away, but... life will be really painful with 0 > scrollback. > You'll need it, too... as soon as you get oops and will want to see > errors just prior to that oops. > If it means I get to maintain it... I'm not happy about it but that's > better than no scrollback. Amen! What self respecting admin installs a gui on servers? What do we have to do to get this back in? What was so buggy with this code that it needed to be removed? Why was it such a burden to just leave it be? Now excuse me while I go dust off the old ext2 defrag utility and enjoy watching disk blocks move around the ncurses interface.