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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j24si6391790ejd.743.2021.01.11.02.32.52; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 02:33:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729050AbhAKK3N (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 11 Jan 2021 05:29:13 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-f42.google.com ([209.85.210.42]:39031 "EHLO mail-ot1-f42.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729007AbhAKK3N (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2021 05:29:13 -0500 Received: by mail-ot1-f42.google.com with SMTP id d8so16406655otq.6 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 02:28:57 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TpcWXKVTLJqhKI2vj6chuqUz7sdp9RxF3q2k5tNxX+I=; b=dY9CpdiZ77EDs1BLPE7cO7wC2V/5sgfubKZbGaSQB6RGKeK7hOA2O4LZmVB8f8HIzI UlplaTkmuy8E4m6tfXGmj/czMpyavfdanarffPcAqaRL0u1Luqm8Y7Zol1hlU1hCMZgI vWpmOct4YJf6CneYzAvcb4I5IKvzX1SGZel+4x1oHpMT8kg2scGuai+GeaF6xcgv1bk6 1e5hhbluuJ/PnZ9gqR+dhJ5SHTVkFSJxp8x6WvL991z2OwSBYojy0ZhiKdayboOGdfI8 VqddTgrm3nH4e5dER0+fq0D2XUysEu39DMXBBgShud3GRkqs9kpwmYeauFJ9MuRfKIN1 8+dQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Jcepv2hGZT77/csHwCRd9W7KIk8Av3MsZ42jBz2o+5S6pPL+D hqujN8gzFKe/dCUE7YDQPN+Dkn011DFyW3T1Bis= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:c01:: with SMTP id 1mr10355898otr.107.1610360912569; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 02:28:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 11:28:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: Linux ARM , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Krzysztof Adamski , Oleksij Rempel , Baruch Siach , Russell King - ARM Linux , Daniel Tang , =?UTF-8?Q?Uwe_Kleine=2DK=C3=B6nig?= , Jamie Iles , Barry Song , Viresh Kumar , Linus Walleij , Jonas Jensen , Marc Gonzalez , Hartley Sweeten , Lubomir Rintel , Neil Armstrong , Shawn Guo , Alex Elder , Alexander Shiyan , Koen Vandeputte , Hans Ulli Kroll , Vladimir Zapolskiy , Wei Xu , Steven Rostedt , Yoshinori Sato , Mark Salter , Michael Ellerman , Geert Uytterhoeven , Thomas Bogendoerfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Arnd, On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:16 AM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:59 AM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:19 AM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:55 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > * MIPS R3000/TX39xx: 32-bit MIPS-II generation, mostly superseded by > > > > 64-bit MIPS-III (R4000 and higher) starting in 1991. arch/mips still > > > > supports these in DECstation and Toshiba Txx9, but it appears that most > > > > of those machines are of the 64-bit kind. Later MIPS32 such as 4Kc and > > > > later are rather different and widely used. > > > > > > I have a (32-bit) RBTX4927 development board in my board farm, boot-test > > > every bi-weekly renesas-drivers release on it, and fix kernel issues > > > when they appear. > > > > Right, I was specifically thinking of the MIPS-II/R3000 ones here, I know > > there are users on multiple actively maintained MIPS-III platforms. > > > > Regarding 32-bit vs 64-bit kernels, can you clarify what makes this one > > a 32-bit board? Is this just your preference for which kernel you install, > > or are there dependencies on firmware or hardware that require running > > this machine in 32-bit mode? > > TX492x is 32-bit (/proc/cpuinfo says mips1/mips2/mips3), TX493x is 64-bit. > As Debian dropped support for mips3 and older, I'm stuck at a Jessie nfsroot. Upon closer look, all TX49xx are 64-bit, but the VxWorks boot loader refuses to boot 64-bit kernels ("Size is incorrect"), hence I settled for a 32-bit kernel config a long time ago. Probably I need to write a 32-bit bootwrapper first. which would allow me to upgrade the Debian userland beyond jessie using mips64el? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds