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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id rh9si166031ejb.507.2021.01.11.12.14.14; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=fail (test mode) header.i=@armlinux.org.uk header.s=pandora-2019 header.b="Ic8i/251"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=armlinux.org.uk Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390877AbhAKUKS (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:10:18 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:54646 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2404092AbhAKUKE (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:10:04 -0500 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk (pandora.armlinux.org.uk [IPv6:2001:4d48:ad52:32c8:5054:ff:fe00:142]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3FC4C061786 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:09:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7mVHYFSOD6PIstBzq8DpUaHpjmOPYloyxHKSoY+lXIM=; b=Ic8i/251qLlOukDGpoCiKBnTI 0eJKrMYnc1U31xjUfRzMK30w9AabAKO+eFLi+64pKMZ9MJ8Mgca45hGFr55CQ+RRu0UCMO81z8g4d 5EQ5erlJp9yZNWSCjfO+erRc1mn5IgVmitbooxY4xQT7MagxeONC9vVkbvT1EjihgSMS2wIc9g4eT Vd9VWcolHM2wVAdwVHg6Rt4LthYH5MII8ug2QS7hNQqzbCPEF2tdx3Bkuio1XQt7gB3dhh/JgOrYU wPU75AWkZt/ZZReeiQBMS7w4GFPX304URussZ03TOUzbvPcRD6J/+0Rjx3WWsB5e0R3vixsCzeQOW caSW3EO9Q==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:46732) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kz3V4-0007Qx-Oo; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 20:09:14 +0000 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kz3Uv-0005XO-St; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 20:09:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 20:09:05 +0000 From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: Linux ARM , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Baruch Siach , Geert Uytterhoeven , Neil Armstrong , Viresh Kumar , Linus Walleij , Daniel Tang , Jamie Iles , Krzysztof Adamski , Alexander Shiyan , Michael Ellerman , Wei Xu , Oleksij Rempel , Alex Elder , Marc Gonzalez , Hans Ulli Kroll , Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= , Steven Rostedt , Vladimir Zapolskiy , Lubomir Rintel , Koen Vandeputte , Barry Song , Thomas Bogendoerfer , Yoshinori Sato , Jonas Jensen , Hartley Sweeten , Mark Salter , Shawn Guo Subject: Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead Message-ID: <20210111200905.GZ1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> References: <20210109174357.GB1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Russell King - ARM Linux admin Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 10:34:57PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 6:43 PM Russell King - ARM Linux admin > wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 11:55:06PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > * dove -- added in 2009, obsoleted by mach-mvebu in 2015 > > > > May be obsoleted, but I still use this for my dove cubox with > > additional patches. > > What is the status of these patches? I also still have a set of patches > to integrate it with the other ARMv7 machines into multiplatform, > and a series to change some of the PCI handling in all plat-orion > platforms, that I was hoping to either upstream or drop once the > platform itself gets removed. I really couldn't say - I have over 200 patches in my kernel tree for the Dove Cubox that give me a fully featured kernel - and I mean everything, including the vMeta video decoder. I haven't updated the tree since last Summer, partly because other things have taken precedence. I couldn't say what the status is right now without going through an update to 5.10. However, some bits can't go into mainline - I was totally shafted over the audio support. There is no way to add flexible support to the kirkwood audio driver without breaking the DT descriptions for every board using that - and by flexible, I mean the ability to output DTS via the SPDIF connector or HDMI on the Dove Cubox. I wasn't listened to at the time, and it _still_ hurts to this day that there is no way back from the crippling bad choices that mainline kernel developers and others made. There was no need for this, other than a desire to merge something that worked for everyone else but was totally unsuitable to be able to provide the full features. > Did you give up on moving the Cubox to DT, or is this something you > still want to get back? Yes, because it is the only fully featured platform I have. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!