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Wysocki" , kernel-team@android.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jisheng Zhang , Kevin Hilman , John Stultz Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/5] Enable fw_devlink=on by default In-Reply-To: <712cb4237f1dbb8d1104736e20713ba457444650.camel@suse.de> References: <20201218031703.3053753-1-saravanak@google.com> <712cb4237f1dbb8d1104736e20713ba457444650.camel@suse.de> User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.9 Message-ID: <44201af052a70efd42f7ff5a2125316c@kernel.org> X-Sender: maz@kernel.org X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 51.254.78.96 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: nsaenzjulienne@suse.de, saravanak@google.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jisheng.Zhang@synaptics.com, khilman@baylibre.com, john.stultz@linaro.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: maz@kernel.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on disco-boy.misterjones.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2021-01-13 11:44, Nicolas Saenz Julienne wrote: > On Thu, 2020-12-17 at 19:16 -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote: >> As discussed in LPC 2020, cyclic dependencies in firmware that >> couldn't >> be broken using logic was one of the last remaining reasons >> fw_devlink=on couldn't be set by default. >> >> This series changes fw_devlink so that when a cyclic dependency is >> found >> in firmware, the links between those devices fallback to permissive >> mode >> behavior. This way, the rest of the system still benefits from >> fw_devlink, but the ambiguous cases fallback to permissive mode. >> >> Setting fw_devlink=on by default brings a bunch of benefits >> (currently, >> only for systems with device tree firmware): >> * Significantly cuts down deferred probes. >> * Device probe is effectively attempted in graph order. >> * Makes it much easier to load drivers as modules without having to >>   worry about functional dependencies between modules (depmod is still >>   needed for symbol dependencies). > > FWIW I don't see any issues with this on Raspberry Pi 4 :). Keep bragging! ;-) M. -- Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...