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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id m7si2731368eji.498.2021.01.14.11.54.35; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729195AbhANTwj (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:52:39 -0500 Received: from smtprelay0154.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.154]:34152 "EHLO smtprelay.hostedemail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728474AbhANTwj (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:52:39 -0500 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (clb03-v110.bra.tucows.net [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222B01E02; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 19:51:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 6A6F6540706572636865732E636F6D X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,joe@perches.com,,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:599:800:960:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1431:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2553:2559:2562:2693:2828:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:4321:5007:6119:6120:6742:7652:7901:7903:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12297:12660:12740:12760:12895:13069:13311:13357:13439:14096:14097:14181:14659:14721:21080:21627:21939:30054:30060:30070:30090:30091,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:1,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: rain54_480ec0327529 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2836 Received: from [192.168.1.159] (unknown [47.151.137.21]) (Authenticated sender: joe@perches.com) by omf01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 19:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] compiler.h: Raise minimum version of GCC to 5.1 for arm64 From: Joe Perches To: Linus Torvalds , Ard Biesheuvel Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux admin , Florian Weimer , Arnd Bergmann , "Cc: Android Kernel" , Theodore Ts'o , Peter Zijlstra , Catalin Marinas , Masahiro Yamada , Nick Desaulniers , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Will Deacon , linux-arm-kernel Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:51:53 -0800 In-Reply-To: References: <20210112224832.10980-1-will@kernel.org> <161055398865.21762.12236232732054213928.b4-ty@arm.com> <20210113214436.GL1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" User-Agent: Evolution 3.38.1-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2021-01-14 at 10:43 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:18 AM Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > > > > So if the arguments are piling up, what is holding us back, other than > > inertia? > > I think we can most certainly just try increasing the minimum version > to 5.1 in the next merge window and see. > > > Note that banning 4.9 for arm64 and banning it in general should be > > two different changes in any case, as the former will need to be > > backported to -stable kernels as well. > > Yes. The arm64 issue is a clear and known bug, plus I suspect gcc-4.9 > is ridiculously old in the arm64 ecosystem anyway. > > So the arm64 issue is a bug-fix, the follow-up of just upgrading gcc > requirements in general would be a "keep up with the times, and allow > those variable declarations in loops". Given the upgrade requirement, and how clang version requirements constantly change, how much more difficult would it be for others to use gcc 7.1 or higher now instead of later?