Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:8c0a:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id go10csp35401pxb; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 00:09:08 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxR5L84Z7u/5ZAB2z21DkjggU/ZSn41HgkBcfGBHvcZO6n61fzEwMuhjBNfN3vCaWkG3tL7 X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:7a42:: with SMTP id i2mr3510654ejo.27.1611216548153; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 00:09:08 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1611216548; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=hNJQzvbvlVgbn+iZku6sydYZrEF/EbGlejMl+3037lb2VDkvXvAKl9zftkao0IJshu NehHHtaDxUQyt/3XLgPRnQPZuvAB24fF1V/XtgAk0sGGU3TcP4At/ViwqJQDGkEz9V0q I4oXiyC3PNuUpWYYgC4vISwi2Wy+T1DY4JZOV59OknokgipH1HfKjtLFFhbYYngtNv5j tjKx358lccZf8PirDSL/W5nXRy3+4bLFd0kYXFr3VUtZYpjH1curR12A+HYD1R2upLSS sFnUT9i9AzpH3c2/t4MrJgXJgvE8vSLt+nV4Xvr10yUKwBH02A/VD/Xue/2WJ/zgT+w2 2bnA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject :message-id; bh=eK2M9S1MW1T9+lCSatqm+m0cr9dm1Qgomtfxg9JOhTQ=; b=pKjoGAspMnDZJjzr1FsUm+9dR1ta+IgUVi7BaF6Lg2IWa8MCcp6AFwu5ZL8cXBOcqS s5YsCu38m6vW6vQe40QRnygQFazAE5V+0NkFeS9DNFS6qhVkRzJ5ObA9Y8WpVphoBOaG eX0a3RkyR8ygrblkZi1OzqZJPrq0tChVYmtzebB4TymJgiknLu/RKGfE93OE4XwEro5y eFumQE+EjCTIJ6PBdfl8y2Z+fFNr3qfTIXSoePPuTptJWMkM8yj5nfDz3BJ/C0pdRBnG RkLbK/Wo5ZWVMEe6/eTC48PkTe59+mYdDPDKSgy/n+AIq4JtpcM0K1MbSHjiY1q4723l Dzcw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id hb19si1459843ejc.14.2021.01.21.00.08.44; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 00:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726524AbhAUIHS (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 03:07:18 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:54318 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728126AbhAUIGR (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 03:06:17 -0500 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:4433::2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FFEFC061575 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 00:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Uxg-009TPT-CG; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:05:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Splicing to/from a tty From: Johannes Berg To: Willy Tarreau , Linus Torvalds Cc: Al Viro , Christoph Hellwig , Oliver Giles , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Greg Kroah-Hartman Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:04:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20210121060522.GA23430@1wt.eu> References: <20210118195400.GC736435@zeniv-ca> <20210120162608.GB740243@zeniv-ca> <20210120191116.GC740243@zeniv-ca> <20210120231439.GE740243@zeniv-ca> <20210121003835.GF740243@zeniv-ca> <20210121014528.GG740243@zeniv-ca> <20210121060522.GA23430@1wt.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.5 (3.36.5-2.fc32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-malware-bazaar: not-scanned Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 07:05 +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote: > I think that most users of splice() on sockets got used to falling back > to recv/send on splice failure due to various cases not being supported > historically (UNIX family sockets immediately come to my mind but I seem > to remember other combinations). Note, however, that I got here because cgit, if using sendfile(), does *not* fall back if it fails (and thus my git tree view is currently down because I haven't downgraded the kernel so far). That may not be common for splice() though. johannes