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Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Rate limit calls to update_blocked_averages()
 for NOHZ
To:     "Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>
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        Paul McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
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        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 16:46, Joel Fernandes (Google)
<joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
>
> On an octacore ARM64 device running ChromeOS Linux kernel v5.4, I found
> that there are a lot of calls to update_blocked_averages(). This causes
> the schedule loop to slow down to taking upto 500 micro seconds at
> times (due to newidle load balance). I have also seen this manifest in
> the periodic balancer.
>
> Closer look shows that the problem is caused by the following
> ingredients:
> 1. If the system has a lot of inactive CGroups (thanks Dietmar for
> suggesting to inspect /proc/sched_debug for this), this can make
> __update_blocked_fair() take a long time.

Inactive cgroups are removed from the list so they should not impact
the duration

>
> 2. The device has a lot of CPUs in a cluster which causes schedutil in a
> shared frequency domain configuration to be slower than usual. (the load

What do you mean exactly by it causes schedutil to be slower than usual ?

> average updates also try to update the frequency in schedutil).
>
> 3. The CPU is running at a low frequency causing the scheduler/schedutil
> code paths to take longer than when running at a high CPU frequency.

Low frequency usually means low utilization so it should happen that much.

>
> The fix is simply rate limit the calls to update_blocked_averages to 20
> times per second. It appears that updating the blocked average less
> often is sufficient. Currently I see about 200 calls per second

Would be good to explain why updating less often is sufficient ?

> sometimes, which seems overkill.
>
> schbench shows a clear improvement with the change:

Have you got more details about your test setup ?
which platform ?
which kernel ?

>
> Without patch:
> ~/schbench -t 2 -m 2 -r 5
> Latency percentiles (usec) runtime 5 (s) (212 total samples)
>         50.0th: 210 (106 samples)
>         75.0th: 619 (53 samples)
>         90.0th: 665 (32 samples)
>         95.0th: 703 (11 samples)
>         *99.0th: 12656 (8 samples)
>         99.5th: 12784 (1 samples)
>         99.9th: 13424 (1 samples)
>         min=15, max=13424
>
> With patch:
> ~/schbench -t 2 -m 2 -r 5
> Latency percentiles (usec) runtime 5 (s) (214 total samples)
>         50.0th: 188 (108 samples)
>         75.0th: 238 (53 samples)
>         90.0th: 623 (32 samples)
>         95.0th: 657 (12 samples)
>         *99.0th: 717 (7 samples)
>         99.5th: 725 (2 samples)
>         99.9th: 725 (0 samples)
>
> Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> Suggested-by: Dietmar Eggeman <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> Co-developed-by: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes (Google) <joel@joelfernandes.org>
>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 04a3ce20da67..fe2dc0024db5 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -8381,7 +8381,7 @@ static bool update_nohz_stats(struct rq *rq, bool force)
>         if (!cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, nohz.idle_cpus_mask))
>                 return false;
>
> -       if (!force && !time_after(jiffies, rq->last_blocked_load_update_tick))
> +       if (!force && !time_after(jiffies, rq->last_blocked_load_update_tick + (HZ/20)))

This condition is there to make sure to update blocked load at most
once a tick in order to filter newly idle case otherwise the rate
limit is already done by load balance interval
This hard coded (HZ/20) looks really like an ugly hack

>                 return true;
>
>         update_blocked_averages(cpu);
> --
> 2.30.0.280.ga3ce27912f-goog
>