Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932260AbWIOUzw (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:55:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932262AbWIOUzw (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:55:52 -0400 Received: from opersys.com ([64.40.108.71]:30219 "EHLO www.opersys.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932260AbWIOUzv (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:55:51 -0400 Message-ID: <450B15B0.3060200@opersys.com> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:05:52 -0400 From: Karim Yaghmour Reply-To: karim@opersys.com Organization: Opersys inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060804 Fedora/1.0.4-0.5.1.fc5 SeaMonkey/1.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tglx@linutronix.de CC: Andrew Morton , Paul Mundt , Jes Sorensen , Roman Zippel , Ingo Molnar , Mathieu Desnoyers , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Ingo Molnar , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Tom Zanussi , ltt-dev@shafik.org, Michel Dagenais Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11] LTTng-core (basic tracing infrastructure) 0.5.108 References: <20060914181557.GA22469@elte.hu> <4509A54C.1050905@opersys.com> <450A9EC9.9080307@opersys.com> <20060915132052.GA7843@localhost.usen.ad.jp> <20060915135709.GB8723@localhost.usen.ad.jp> <450AB5F9.8040501@opersys.com> <450AB506.30802@sgi.com> <450AB957.2050206@opersys.com> <20060915142836.GA9288@localhost.usen.ad.jp> <450ABE08.2060107@opersys.com> <1158332447.5724.423.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20060915111644.c857b2cf.akpm@osdl.org> <1158348954.5724.481.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450B0585.5070700@opersys.com> <1158351780.5724.507.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1158351780.5724.507.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1633 Lines: 36 Thomas Gleixner wrote: > Stop whining! I resent that. If your efforts in working on popular kernel topics met rapid reward then I'm happy for you. The fact that others tackle unpopular topics and persist despite constant personal attacks should nevertheless be recognized for what it is. > LTT did not manage to solve the problem in a generic, You're entirely correct. I never claimed it to be perfect, that's why I had approached others early on to try to bridge things together and that's why I used to post ltt patches to the lkml. > mainline acceptable way. If you really believe that Kprobes / Systemtap > is just a $corporate maliciousness to kick you out of business, then I > really start to doubt your sanity. If that's how it was read, then it wasn't written right. ltt was never really a profit center for me, embedded Linux training was -- you wouldn't believe how much more profitable training is than pure consulting. But my own business is just beside the point. My point was that the high barrier to entry for tracing fragmented efforts around it. As for corporate decisions which culminated from such resistance, they probably were the sanest decision to take at the time. Heck if I was a manager at any of those companies I would have likely taken the same decision. It was, and still is, though, counterproductive. Fully justifiable, but counterproductive. Karim - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/