Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965159AbWIQXlz (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:41:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965160AbWIQXlz (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:41:55 -0400 Received: from thunk.org ([69.25.196.29]:8137 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965159AbWIQXly (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:41:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:41:39 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Pavel Machek Cc: Adam Henley , Michal Piotrowski , kernel list Subject: Re: 8 hours of battery life on thinkpad x60 Message-ID: <20060917234138.GA9049@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Pavel Machek , Adam Henley , Michal Piotrowski , kernel list References: <20060917194118.GA3477@elf.ucw.cz> <6bffcb0e0609171307o6a4257e8p560fb809b3535980@mail.gmail.com> <20060917210059.GB4677@elf.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060917210059.GB4677@elf.ucw.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2903 Lines: 58 On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:00:59PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Sun 2006-09-17 20:57:40, Adam Henley wrote: > > >Bug -> http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/files/crap/bug.jpg > > > > > > > And when I open it, *I* appear as co-author! > > I never knew... :o) > > Ok, someone fix openoffice :-). I'd even call it a security problem in > openoffice.... I'm not sure it's a bug. A mis-designed feature, certainly, combined with use of said mis-designed feature in the SuSE template. What happened is that the template is using the "insert field" feature. (Access by Insert->Fields->Author from the menubar). This inserts the author, if present, into the text box. The SuSE template uses this in the title slide as well as in each slide's master template. The problem is that the Author information is copied from each OpenOffice's user data (set by Tools->Options->Openoffice.org->User data). It is **not** a property of the document. This is the mis-design feature (although it's documented as working this way, so it's technically not a bug :-), which makes the feature useless. So no sane template or presentation file should use it, since it will look one way one user's laptop/workstation, but when the presentation is shown on someone else's system, it won't look the same. Unfortunately, SuSE's template uses this mis feature, and then I suspect Pavel has no user information set, but since he sees other SuSE information with the author information filled out a certain way, he put his name where it would "normally" appear manually, and then whoever does has user information in their Open Office shows up as a co-author. Recomendations: Tell the Open Office developers that the information should be saved in the presentation, and only to use the user-specific openoffice.org information as a default when creating a documetnation from scratch. Tell whoever manages the SuSE template to drop the use of the automatic author feature, as it is dangerous and doesn't do what people would expect. All people should check to see if they are using the automatic embedded Author field, and remove it from their presentations and replace it with their own name, manually inserted. - Ted P.S. The only time I can think of where it might make sense to use the automatic author information from the user data would be if it is a marketing slide sales deck, where you want to fill in the name of the salesperson automatically as if they were the author. So perhaps that should be retained as a feature, but there are *so* many other places where this is not the right answer, so it probably shouldn't be the default. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/