Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751561AbWIREUI (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:20:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751562AbWIREUH (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:20:07 -0400 Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:30186 "EHLO mx2.mail.elte.hu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751561AbWIREUF (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:20:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 06:11:28 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Theodore Tso , Karim Yaghmour , Nicholas Miell , Paul Mundt , linux-kernel , Ingo Molnar , Jes Sorensen , Andrew Morton , Roman Zippel , Tom Zanussi , Richard J Moore , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , Michel Dagenais , Mathieu Desnoyers , Christoph Hellwig , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Thomas Gleixner , William Cohen , "Martin J. Bligh" Subject: Re: tracepoint maintainance models Message-ID: <20060918041127.GA19843@elte.hu> References: <450D182B.9060300@opersys.com> <20060917112128.GA3170@localhost.usen.ad.jp> <20060917143623.GB15534@elte.hu> <1158524390.2471.49.camel@entropy> <20060917230623.GD8791@elte.hu> <450DEEA5.7080808@opersys.com> <20060918005624.GA30835@elte.hu> <450DFFC8.5080005@opersys.com> <20060918033027.GB11894@elte.hu> <20060918035216.GF9049@thunk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060918035216.GF9049@thunk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-ELTE-SpamScore: -2.9 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-2.9 required=5.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.0.3 -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts 0.5 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] -0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1419 Lines: 29 * Theodore Tso wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 05:30:27AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > Amazing! So the trace data provided by those removed static markups > > (which were moved into dynamic scripts and are thus still fully > > available to dynamic tracers) are still available to LTT users? How is > > that possible, via quantum tunneling perhaps? ;-) > > I *think* what Karim is trying to claim is that LTT also has some > dynamic capabilities, and isn't a pure static tracing system. But if > that's the case, I don't understand why LTT and SystemTap can't just > merge and play nice together.... oh, that merge was certainly my suggestion from the very beginning of this "discussion". And no, LTT has no kprobe capabilities at the moment, it is a pure static tracer, but i'm still hoping that Karim stops doing this what i believe to be a pointless Don Quijote fight (which i believe keeps Mathieu from making the right technical decision), and lets LTT adopt to the times and integrate SystemTap. But hey, it's really his problem and not mine in the first place. I certainly have my share of fun and i even get to write code :) Ingo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/