Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965130AbWIRPQf (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:16:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751767AbWIRPQf (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:16:35 -0400 Received: from opersys.com ([64.40.108.71]:56836 "EHLO www.opersys.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751764AbWIRPQe (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:16:34 -0400 Message-ID: <450EBD33.7050202@opersys.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:37:23 -0400 From: Karim Yaghmour Reply-To: karim@opersys.com Organization: Opersys inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060804 Fedora/1.0.4-0.5.1.fc5 SeaMonkey/1.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ingo Molnar CC: Jes Sorensen , Mathieu Desnoyers , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Ingo Molnar , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Thomas Gleixner , Tom Zanussi , ltt-dev@shafik.org, Michel Dagenais Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/11] LTTng-core (basic tracing infrastructure) 0.5.108 References: <4509A54C.1050905@opersys.com> <450A9EC9.9080307@opersys.com> <450A9D4B.1030901@sgi.com> <450AB408.8020904@opersys.com> <450AB90C.9000403@sgi.com> <450AC2FA.70203@opersys.com> <450BD4C7.8030000@sgi.com> <450C1821.5010709@opersys.com> <450E5F6D.8070000@sgi.com> <20060918144846.GA32122@elte.hu> In-Reply-To: <20060918144846.GA32122@elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1852 Lines: 45 Trust me, I don't intend to drag this any longer. I just want to make sure this issue of "respect" is cleared up. Ingo Molnar wrote: > i'm giving up on Karim too. I did apologize to Karim for the mistake i > did in this thread-of-200-mails, but it's revolting to see that Karim > still goes on and attacks top Linux contributors like you, without > looking back, without apologizing for anything and without feeling any > remorse. If there exists a cult where top contributors are to be venerated, then I'm not part of it. If my calling individuals to account on their supposed expertise on tracing, which they use as justification for continued marginalization of such related projects, has generated so much backlash, then it is for me but a sign of how entrenched arrogance can be in some quarters. Don't get wrong, I have immense respect for the collective talent of kernel developers. But no matter how broad collective talent can be, it cannot be omniscient. > Karim patronized, attacked and insulted various people dozens > of times in this thread alone. I just dont see any value in trying to > "work with" Karim anymore, because it's apparently not something he is > interested in doing. I feel a bit sorry for him too, because at heart he > must be a deeply lonely person. Ditto. > single patch, not a oneliner fix, nothing. So if someone needs to prove > his experience in embedded Linux matters on this forum then it's Karim. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/belinuxsys/ Karim -- President / Opersys Inc. Embedded Linux Training and Expertise www.opersys.com / 1.866.677.4546 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/