Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030295AbWISNZL (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:25:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030296AbWISNZL (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:25:11 -0400 Received: from opersys.com ([64.40.108.71]:23310 "EHLO www.opersys.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030295AbWISNZJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:25:09 -0400 Message-ID: <450FF48B.60703@opersys.com> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:45:47 -0400 From: Karim Yaghmour Reply-To: karim@opersys.com Organization: Opersys inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060804 Fedora/1.0.4-0.5.1.fc5 SeaMonkey/1.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Hellwig , Roman Zippel , Ingo Molnar , Nicholas Miell , Paul Mundt , Karim Yaghmour , linux-kernel , Ingo Molnar , Jes Sorensen , Andrew Morton , Tom Zanussi , Richard J Moore , "Frank Ch. Eigler" , Michel Dagenais , Mathieu Desnoyers , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Thomas Gleixner , William Cohen , "Martin J. Bligh" Subject: Re: tracing - consensus building insteat of dogfights References: <450D182B.9060300@opersys.com> <20060917112128.GA3170@localhost.usen.ad.jp> <20060917143623.GB15534@elte.hu> <1158524390.2471.49.camel@entropy> <20060917230623.GD8791@elte.hu> <20060919125801.GA12815@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <20060919125801.GA12815@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2150 Lines: 52 Christoph Hellwig wrote: > I've been half-way through reading this thread after returning, and I must > say I'm rather annoyed that 80% of it is just Roman vs Ingo and Karim vs > Jes dogfights that run in circles. Let's try to find some majority optinion > and plans to move forward: Well, I believed such a consensus had been achieved and that somehow Ingo and I had reached some friendly terms: See this: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=115855453205733&w=2 And this: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=115855674320139&w=2 Then this: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=115855674231992&w=2 For me, the fighting could have stopped there, but then Ingo saw it fitting to post this: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=115859172307516&w=2 I still don't get how Ingo goes from friendly and compromising to then attempting the worst kind of character assassination I've seen on lkml. The only way it makes sense is if Ingo's understanding was that Jes' email, to which he is responding, was responding to an email I had sent after telling Ingo that the fighting was over. And that would be simple to understand, within this humongous thread confusion is more than likely. Though the inverse (friendly then angry) would just make Ingo one of the most irrational persons I've come across. My nitpicking in this last paragraph sounds absolutely silly, but it's really quite important because if cleared up it would at least go to show that one of two main protagonists in this issue had indeed agreed to put disagreement aside. I've asked Ingo privately to clear this up, but haven't gotten any response, maybe he was just too angry and killfilled me since. In any case, I'm more than happy to settle for the friendly end- of-discussion terms. Karim -- President / Opersys Inc. Embedded Linux Training and Expertise www.opersys.com / 1.866.677.4546 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/