Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:8c0a:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id go10csp526241pxb; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 10:46:58 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy7sMmz6Nn99z4x0AnuFh3ADmtoUppZWKwZJ4Fwm9kaOCABjXwuqx4UWpQ5EIF7Q6l8rj9c X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:2d87:: with SMTP id gt7mr4466737ejc.123.1612378018318; Wed, 03 Feb 2021 10:46:58 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1612378018; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=xvmoCNdwDpqSfS1lDYDDE8RLwEsFVaOEjBslv3ANTABoC0sctUrE7W2c/PJt14aY2Y YvN0/C7r2ubXMMldKhLaYJcNXVpjF/Bn479zO3TwjOLiqBcRWnhtCTvzWIYL5Wkq05MW SgJrC48gLuckJh7gSAZ7ZomBlVpUn9oxTNZL+FbsvIlfbvpdEuuGfafdwCXEX5EZpbPI r12rs7j3HxkVYUOMRVoDLEmiIJC4bDUTkmcgE69shsvWLWa5n3N6N9aw9hTLdzJzExeb 3r4+AhUDEGvTnv1Iv2oF1vOlMMdwLL91Lj9QqtzoIDbSHQD3fqrXxIEKPf1sLVXV32j6 czdw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:mime-version:message-id:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from; bh=auxuO2qtSOhmZAHdiK775pvlXYHDKDrj4GqlDXKbzDc=; b=Q238NX1l8fNxZ+O7cPesJMA5uBAtUvAU4UIk+lZoCUb30fI0kVRRK1RR5tUehf3Q5y sWqKx0pdQq0+hAdUSUvPznqVl4fN0Q1o8EgMIjBPqrOv53d6T0O6zYCyLTYEWGdA475F Wx9at3E/j7CZ5+JXpujyl9ZdN4ql3LudSmnrbIUurn1XuYxrIYL1zxytxCTXjwcnFwF4 dbJD3wBoGNCYM6ZkrK3VIEDDzOE59Qff/FSeNHfilCEmaDQOAC3qQbZxKy5AbRrw3Uki gWJ1nP86K07BfCJsrsg9FTzg/eImoLWd7dxHEA1giAp0jsFo0Lc9V0EWdkCpfo+0ywVl P7yA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=arm.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s12si2000880ejq.378.2021.02.03.10.46.32; Wed, 03 Feb 2021 10:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=arm.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232970AbhBCSoU (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:44:20 -0500 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.110.172]:45082 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232879AbhBCSoM (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:44:12 -0500 Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1E7143D; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 10:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from e113632-lin (e113632-lin.cambridge.arm.com [10.1.194.46]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE3A63F719; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 10:43:25 -0800 (PST) From: Valentin Schneider To: Qais Yousef Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , Vincent Guittot , Dietmar Eggemann , Morten Rasmussen , Quentin Perret , Pavan Kondeti , Rik van Riel Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] sched/fair: misfit task load-balance tweaks In-Reply-To: <20210203151400.ommltjjyuok4yj5e@e107158-lin> References: <20210128183141.28097-1-valentin.schneider@arm.com> <20210203151400.ommltjjyuok4yj5e@e107158-lin> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.21 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/26.3 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2021 18:43:23 +0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Qais, On 03/02/21 15:14, Qais Yousef wrote: > On 01/28/21 18:31, Valentin Schneider wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Here is this year's series of misfit changes. On the menu: >> >> o Patch 1 is an independent active balance cleanup >> o Patch 2 adds some more sched_asym_cpucapacity static branches >> o Patch 3 introduces yet another margin for capacity to capacity >> comparisons >> o Patches 4-6 build on top of patch 3 and change capacity comparisons >> throughout misfit load balancing >> o Patches 7-8 fix some extra misfit issues I've been seeing on "real" >> workloads. >> >> IMO the somewhat controversial bit is patch 3, because it attempts to solve >> margin issues by... Adding another margin. This does solve issues on >> existing platforms (e.g. Pixel4), but we'll be back to square one the day >> some "clever" folks spin a platform with two different CPU capacities less than >> 5% apart. > > One more margin is a cause of apprehension to me. But in this case I think it > is the appropriate thing to do now. I can't think of a scenario where this > could hurt. > Thanks for having a look! > Thanks > > -- > Qais Yousef