Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750878AbWIUAqF (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:46:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750880AbWIUAqF (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:46:05 -0400 Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.151]:29888 "EHLO e33.co.us.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750873AbWIUAqC (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:46:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [patch00/05]: Containers(V2)- Introduction From: Chandra Seetharaman Reply-To: sekharan@us.ibm.com To: Paul Jackson Cc: Paul Menage , npiggin@suse.de, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rohitseth@google.com, devel@openvz.org, clameter@sgi.com In-Reply-To: <20060920134903.fbd9fea8.pj@sgi.com> References: <1158718568.29000.44.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com> <1158777240.6536.89.camel@linuxchandra> <6599ad830609201143h19f6883wb388666e27913308@mail.google.com> <1158778496.6536.95.camel@linuxchandra> <6599ad830609201225k3d38afe2gea7adc2fa8067e0@mail.google.com> <20060920134903.fbd9fea8.pj@sgi.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: IBM Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:45:59 -0700 Message-Id: <1158799559.6536.120.camel@linuxchandra> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2109 Lines: 54 On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 13:49 -0700, Paul Jackson wrote: I concur with most of the comments (except as noted below) > Paul M wrote: > > Even if the resource control portions aren't totally compatible, > > having two separate process container abstractions in the kernel is > > sub-optimal > > At heart, CKRM (ne Resource Groups) are (well, have been until now) > different than cpusets. > > Cpusets answers the question 'where', and Resource Groups 'how much'. > > The fundamental motivation behind cpusets was to be able to enforce > job isolation. A job can get dedicated use of specified resources, > -even- if it means those resources are severely underutilized by that > job. > > The fundamental motivation (Chandra or others correct me if I'm wrong) > of Resource Groups is to improve capacity utilization while limiting > starvation due to greedy, competing users for the same resources. > > Cpusets seeks maximum isolation. Resource Groups seeks maximum > capacity utilization while preserving guaranteed levels of quality > of service. > > Cpusets are that wall between you and the neighbor you might not > trust. Resource groups are a large family of modest wealth sitting > down to share a meal. I am thinking hard about how to bring guarantee into this picture :). > > It seems that cpusets can mimic memory resource groups. I don't I am little confused w.r.t how cpuset can mimic memory resource groups. How can cpuset provide support for over commit. > see how cpusets could mimic other resource groups. But maybe I'm > just being a dimm bulb. > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Chandra Seetharaman | Be careful what you choose.... - sekharan@us.ibm.com | .......you may get it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/