Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:47:40 +0200
From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
       linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.16.30-pre1
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On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 11:20:54PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> 
> > On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 22:49 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > I will not use 2.6.16.y with its current rules, for sure, and I doubt
> > > any distribution will. Wasn't the whole point of 2.6.16.y to serve as
> > > a common base between several distributions? 
> > 
> > I would not expect distros to be interested in a 2.6 tree that does not
> > add support for new devices.  Isn't new hardware support one of the main
> > areas where distros routinely get ahead of mainline?
> 
> It really depends on the distribution, and even more of the specific
> product. I know for a fact that Suse has no interest in supporting
> additional hardware in the saa7134 driver for SLES10, for example. I
> suspect that distributions only backport hardware support when a
> customer asks for it, and they have some in-house knowledge to do it
> safely.

[ see my comment about distributions in the other email ]

And I'd expect distributions with some in-house knowledge to do at most 
cherry picking from my tree.

> My original understanding was that 2.6.16.y was meant to be a common
> tree between different distributions and products, containing only the
> unquestionable fixes - i.e. security, data corruption and other oopses,
> in the -stable spirit - and then different distributions would add their
> own patches on top of it as they see fit.

How do you define "unquestionable fixes"?

E.g. what if a distribution supports an external module, and a fix 
requires changing the kernel ABI this module uses?

The users of my trees are mostly people using self-compiled kernels that 
want security fixes but no regressions.

> Jean Delvare

cu
Adrian

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