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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g9si6087202ejj.456.2021.02.12.05.39.21; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 05:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231950AbhBLNg3 (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 12 Feb 2021 08:36:29 -0500 Received: from www262.sakura.ne.jp ([202.181.97.72]:62103 "EHLO www262.sakura.ne.jp" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231990AbhBLNfH (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Feb 2021 08:35:07 -0500 Received: from fsav104.sakura.ne.jp (fsav104.sakura.ne.jp [27.133.134.231]) by www262.sakura.ne.jp (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 11CDYQpr053608; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 22:34:26 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www262.sakura.ne.jp (202.181.97.72) by fsav104.sakura.ne.jp (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/550/fsav104.sakura.ne.jp); Fri, 12 Feb 2021 22:34:26 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/550/fsav104.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (M106072142033.v4.enabler.ne.jp [106.72.142.33]) (authenticated bits=0) by www262.sakura.ne.jp (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 11CDYPIM053602 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Feb 2021 22:34:25 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp) Subject: Re: possible deadlock in start_this_handle (2) To: Michal Hocko Cc: Matthew Wilcox , Jan Kara , Dmitry Vyukov , syzbot , Jan Kara , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, LKML , syzkaller-bugs , "Theodore Ts'o" , Linux-MM References: <20210211125717.GH308988@casper.infradead.org> <20210211132533.GI308988@casper.infradead.org> <20210211142630.GK308988@casper.infradead.org> <9cff0fbf-b6e7-1166-e4ba-d4573aef0c82@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> <20210212122207.GM308988@casper.infradead.org> <2b90c488-a6b9-2565-bd3a-e4f8bf8404e9@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> From: Tetsuo Handa Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 22:34:23 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2021/02/12 22:12, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Fri 12-02-21 21:58:15, Tetsuo Handa wrote: >> On 2021/02/12 21:30, Michal Hocko wrote: >>> On Fri 12-02-21 12:22:07, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 08:18:11PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote: >>>>> On 2021/02/12 1:41, Michal Hocko wrote: >>>>>> But I suspect we have drifted away from the original issue. I thought >>>>>> that a simple check would help us narrow down this particular case and >>>>>> somebody messing up from the IRQ context didn't sound like a completely >>>>>> off. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From my experience at https://lkml.kernel.org/r/201409192053.IHJ35462.JLOMOSOFFVtQFH@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp , >>>>> I think we can replace direct PF_* manipulation with macros which do not receive "struct task_struct *" argument. >>>>> Since TASK_PFA_TEST()/TASK_PFA_SET()/TASK_PFA_CLEAR() are for manipulating PFA_* flags on a remote thread, we can >>>>> define similar ones for manipulating PF_* flags on current thread. Then, auditing dangerous users becomes easier. >>>> >>>> No, nobody is manipulating another task's GFP flags. >>> >>> Agreed. And nobody should be manipulating PF flags on remote tasks >>> either. >>> >> >> No. You are misunderstanding. The bug report above is an example of manipulating PF flags on remote tasks. > > Could you be more specific? I do not remember there was any theory that > somebody is manipulating flags on a remote task. A very vague theory was > that an interrupt context might be doing that on the _current_ context > but even that is not based on any real evidence. It is a pure > speculation. > Please read the link above. The report is an example of manipulating PF flags on a remote task. You are thinking interrupt context as the only possible culprit, but you should also think concurrent access as the other possible culprit.