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Date:   Mon, 15 Feb 2021 09:30:28 +0100
From:   Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To:     Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>
Cc:     Ian Lance Taylor <iant@golang.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] fs: Add flag to file_system_type to indicate content
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:25:36AM +0800, Nicolas Boichat wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:12 AM Ian Lance Taylor <iant@golang.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 4:38 PM Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 03:54:48PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:27:26AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If you can't tell from userspace that a file has data in it other
> > > > > than by calling read() on it, then you can't use cfr on it.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know how to do that, Dave. :)
> > >
> > > If stat returns a non-zero size, then userspace knows it has at
> > > least that much data in it, whether it be zeros or previously
> > > written data. cfr will copy that data. The special zero length
> > > regular pipe files fail this simple "how much data is there to copy
> > > in this file" check...
> >
> > This suggests that if the Go standard library sees that
> > copy_file_range reads zero bytes, we should assume that it failed, and
> > should use the fallback path as though copy_file_range returned
> > EOPNOTSUPP or EINVAL.  This will cause an extra system call for an
> > empty file, but as long as copy_file_range does not return an error
> > for cases that it does not support we are going to need an extra
> > system call anyhow.
> >
> > Does that seem like a possible mitigation?  That is, are there cases
> > where copy_file_range will fail to do a correct copy, and will return
> > success, and will not return zero?
> 
> I'm a bit worried about the sysfs files that report a 4096 bytes file
> size, for 2 reasons:
>  - I'm not sure if the content _can_ actually be longer (I couldn't
> find a counterexample)

There are quite a few, look for binary sysfs files that are pipes from
hardware/firmware resources to userspace.  /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/
has a number of them if you want to play around with it.

thanks,

greg k-h