Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750734AbWIYTqr (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:46:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750739AbWIYTqr (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:46:47 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:2255 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750734AbWIYTqq (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:46:46 -0400 Message-ID: <4518321D.80606@garzik.org> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:46:37 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Brown CC: Michiel de Boer , James Bottomley , linux-kernel Subject: Re: GPLv3 Position Statement References: <1158941750.3445.31.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <451798FA.8000004@rebelhomicide.demon.nl> <17687.46268.156413.352299@cse.unsw.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <17687.46268.156413.352299@cse.unsw.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.3 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.3 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1437 Lines: 33 Neil Brown wrote: > But maybe I am just misinformed. Maybe there are dozens of different > manufacturers making devices that use DRM to prohibit freedom despite > using GPL code, and maybe there are hundreds of submarine patents > owned by distributors of GPL code and embodied in that code that the > owners are going to start suing us overs.... Is there a list of these > somewhere? At least for patents, lawyers scream bloody murder if a list of patents is posted. Once that is done, people can no longer claim ignorance of a patent. >> What is the stance of the developer team / kernel maintainers on DRM, > > While I cannot speak for other developers (and sometimes have trouble > speaking for myself), one stance I have often heard is that DRM is > simply a tool - one that is largely based on cryptography which is > just another tool. They can have good uses and bad uses just like the > TCP/IP stack (think 'spam'). So code to implement then would (if of > suitable quality) be allowed into the kernel. If you want to make DRM > illegal, speak to your member-of-parliament, not your code developers. This is a KEY POINT: There can be good DRM as well as bad DRM. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/