Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:8c0a:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id go10csp7487324pxb; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:19:14 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxCAZtGW6qxu6Sv//qvxoA8ezgTKCPzOYZ3j5dj9PSoo5EnvCOWpXkuWTLkCH1DMm0ppwZg X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:da1e:: with SMTP id fi30mr5313889ejb.151.1613675954360; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:19:14 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1613675954; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=D0bbMcAVyppCNUj3pHfrHboH6dypq2P8yRUQiQPJiTJ0+jtPBAEO8HNsNIxkOIuUy6 FJPXzD0jMaQ0p0sApdre6AapxVCRUTok5xX95LyZY05MRjiW9jVwGnUZ08QvKTGnZvs3 7AskKUAvxUUzP3FFum1NODYQmSc5fLfi0sF9S1wotgG3Bi6KWOompBoKwgaiFem6pxuy ZJTwmuaA2YA0ElVkkjjxlHT6RJ1KXWhN1mGAUqmIvkizxvY5V3XpidOszoYUFTEEN5qr MnGD0fs7KcZxqsCjbDFf0boI4CPT/BUgROLKuJcyiYtMoTnr0ZIc1DisIjLzephYlcwd 8w9Q== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:content-language :in-reply-to:mime-version:user-agent:date:message-id:from:references :cc:to:subject:dkim-signature; bh=81POtabBJq2eGay3CWaGmtWfFPlaZit9yIcsKoLK2/Q=; b=qR44lRDX/wThMiKpOu0xumWJd/7/4nfjfkC+GfPvbPuAzuVzQzsC0SRBEdUnCPkq7f y8KKSts4zX9FQQFgFDp4zxkhe2At+HLu+nnijoZAVoKQvrYao/a6mWwMOb0MkeUcurtd Ck+tfyXSzvBaLhXTAx89jEQcbmFGOzw4DVurqDSwSg5AmsNz9wciTHaiUu7KeH0IETXj LgEixgZwt/41e1t1aV8CYalGuL9uYhqdiIZc53ei8e0HKyrYQrgXwbAekIXr86wq1JKK hd7Z+dD62Z1bWc9uGMF8PUbAL2T+0e1ivXch0jW8fe2GNEHbv1OJvaTpCAam2Y/BsFv1 yO2g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=QKYfgB0H; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id lf8si3382741ejc.181.2021.02.18.11.18.41; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=QKYfgB0H; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S234215AbhBRTSF (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:18:05 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:34126 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S234896AbhBRR6A (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:58:00 -0500 Received: from mail-pl1-x62e.google.com (mail-pl1-x62e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 195E9C061788 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:57:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pl1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id d15so1665140plh.4 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:57:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=81POtabBJq2eGay3CWaGmtWfFPlaZit9yIcsKoLK2/Q=; b=QKYfgB0HnzU+tWc/4DVgPNH7Rth0slQWqPwDkgDdTO0LK+vIkQfF2f9+wVbf8foC0R LBhpMrOM1DFGngp/TBrCqUHKCWE1gvy3/R9y8PMLISnspBffYrvLWLEeqv/L9Kf7DE/Y IcR/Tr1ZCeMg4LtkEFoisYVa48mlhHxbICDZ8d0ZUPP2DjsMAjZKqSZ1GeOvtaHbbV4+ 2eS4kWGiQemyzlH5UGy/q9R/vAiw8mepC1AscCZJ6kF7ksi5IkDBHINDZnJWotg6cslA JwAerRrGgfPILXJrGy2APnt+PCu7JH1qjGXBtGlGt2nVU1UCfVJj3Muy6/Nd4BH39v00 0joA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=81POtabBJq2eGay3CWaGmtWfFPlaZit9yIcsKoLK2/Q=; b=WM7TnDlgLPfRQi86m0o/64MgQChcSjBpCqKTibvaz0+eZaEpW5VVD9ITyQIKLHUsqG PbGEv/gVnW4dX0iPb0QK2F99+KV8Tq5+cBG6xGqrgxDXw9xZwoTtVCpgzQ9fB1cYrqym X08wn1i3M5BXfCdUfbpOFXJR7i7OdtrGSVVAvhi1wGvYQSMcy83Tf2RzoqMQ8K/QcEWV oN8BuwGRa8+6vjpynx8xmEMkTKlr6m+VSFXQZKv8knRWT3s0F5mi1qnUpT1QnEH21qYA d56+jfYoipGmM8U6CJsCvz+24JYS/5Lsbh0IkkngPiBKBupOQJOb4xRQWYd+7jbclDm0 14WA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Luq2w4MDS7zqEbJg1v+FeRHZKMh9QoV3dsa5trXgpNTyumBPH R8QyaFaolxC3YbDQ+l09jao= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:70c6:b029:df:d62a:8c69 with SMTP id l6-20020a17090270c6b02900dfd62a8c69mr5045245plt.20.1613671038511; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:57:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.230.29.30] ([192.19.223.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c26sm7945056pfj.183.2021.02.18.09.57.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:57:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? To: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Florian Fainelli Cc: Sasha Levin , Scott Branden , BCM Kernel Feedback , LKML , Linux ARM References: <8cf503db-ac4c-a546-13c0-aac6da5c073b@broadcom.com> <20210218165104.GC2013@sasha-vm> <00b9e2fb-d818-58d6-edae-4dbd6aa814f7@gmail.com> From: Florian Fainelli Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 09:57:16 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2/18/2021 9:53 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 09:21:13AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote: >> As a company, we are most likely shooting ourselves in the foot by not >> having a point of coordination with the Linux Foundation and key people >> like you, Greg and other participants in the stable kernel. > > What does the LF have to do with this? I did not know whether the commitment/plan to use a given LTS kernel had to be funneled through the Linux Foundation and then down to you, but I am happy that this can be done publicly via a mailing list instead. > > We are here, on the mailing lists, working with everyone. Just test the > -rc releases we make and let us know if they work or not for you, it's > not a lot of "coordination" needed at all. > > Otherwise, if no one is saying that they are going to need these for 6 > years and are willing to use it in their project (i.e. and test it), > there's no need for us to maintain it for that long, right? Right, that is straight forward, works for me! -- Florian