Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:8c0a:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id go10csp7602993pxb; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:52:46 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwFu6pahmZRtt7XsCM9kIndMsCHRWB9JMnMmHG9fo1ohpryTrAMvxyrcCSDuyS2DPlewxQj X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:20f5:: with SMTP id rh21mr6179036ejb.193.1613688766202; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:52:46 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1613688766; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=inxBqJBQknXAyJh+fBUDrZl9SsQWV/Rafmp36cgNrYxW97/nY8+jRBJ5mv/AVN36+i lM4H9PLqaic91aDVqVnrGSP/XZiV+9jkYLKOjgXhDpZvoWCyASvyhgKjNkFMKjaNtGuh ee9xijEZ/Q04LWAQvHAuSKB3U0/o1oNV7026tqSMllQRhrkb6j1GPIQXVoxYKNVLBxl6 PFI0VxmQGfh9/IXyAls6AZQaMBBaJAZjmbGm6HmnrO84CwFnrcvnY8i6Q9Xp1XsGS9G5 ZQjllJT7fzZ4l+MFvsMo7m2l2v3200CdDFz0/MJOjaQzvotndqmgMjinmixsDhYipIRS o2rw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:message-id:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:cc :user-agent:date:subject:to:from; bh=Lc+OEbiKiFAaCJvx6EROmikOc51EwM61barhr8IQBls=; b=f9AeECePt4d+avqwlyzPQkEpOJ/PTFWO6kuM0zSAYocZnlO+DW1Hmjkd169Pfkdg+3 kHObOBmy67B+WlAntVWbSxYgxjdRgJLuZH7QrqRFoWO5xpKYkK2/s4cVeRnzAm1Vqw7n tf0hegjdCsAFiralviz8xuup6TH37e5BxRj6jFplVel6NxWeVjU//Qinp9Iu6vWVXwpG dnOnT4Cp5qiCms/D6W+s45HDP73MUH+c5UvLQlT+WOX0uBTxGnoBi052dtn8GFWR/y3E dc5EuyZZZO9BVE/3iOcXEdwQpcVY/MRCier63dTDoN1EUi9wLivfsBsgDPrpWQU0D0o8 FbDA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v4si4355384edy.79.2021.02.18.14.52.23; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229913AbhBRWus (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:50:48 -0500 Received: from hosting.gsystem.sk ([212.5.213.30]:54544 "EHLO hosting.gsystem.sk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229535AbhBRWuq (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:50:46 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 386 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:50:45 EST Received: from [192.168.0.2] (188-167-68-178.dynamic.chello.sk [188.167.68.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hosting.gsystem.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E95547A0088; Thu, 18 Feb 2021 23:43:38 +0100 (CET) From: Ondrej Zary To: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 23:43:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" , Jari Ruusu , Willy Tarreau , Scott Branden , Linux ARM , LKML , BCM Kernel Feedback References: <20210218205534.GA10201@duo.ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20210218205534.GA10201@duo.ucw.cz> X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <202102182343.36276.linux@zary.sk> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday 18 February 2021 21:55:34 Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > For me > > > only way to get properly working WiFi on my laptop computer is to > > > compile that Intel out-of-tree version. Sad, but true. > > > > Why use 4.19.y on a laptop in the firstplace? That feels very wrong and > > is not the recommended thing to use the LTS kernels for. > > Well, that's actually what distributions are doing, for example Debian > 10.8 is on 4.19... There's 5.10 in buster-backports. That's probably the easiest way to get support for new HW. > I expect -stable is what most users are running on their notebooks. > > Best regards, > Pavel -- Ondrej Zary