Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:8c0a:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id go10csp7841240pxb; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 00:03:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzvb/Ea3Gdd8WmZwqtDuPQodYxDHNlf9TB/1kMSqflE28FpRVFULcMYLcOU/64+7PdTpi7R X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:1118:: with SMTP id u24mr7967386edv.386.1613721795653; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 00:03:15 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1613721795; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=J7k+VZssFwmUEoAHyKT0InbaF8ijGMLpKfdqDlFdwN89G/GKeRg2WN+aMbwENUndPv aQB4U1K96eu8Q8MeOl/RyS/CJUjoaxSVJP3HuyzLxxgKJcYBo9OjeUDav375GYZ3WO/G TZx5WHSdeSzdwnJk+D5/iGtj98xX8MxAN/xXWfL9Jhtc4uZR5eMwSM535YOFu01pZxVW AvGRwnj/ofdQpaexFUbst2pk0gBRmREQdIObG74s9mLKEzSngQTcICw+6Va1BeWqrHtF b70C6XO7hwFG5UYw3R16n0ELz6A8sHzWbnYYEzACdVFXoQwVUNSvurgzOI46yzZgVWpl 1NVg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=zgWduRe0DZGQlFmX7gBcIbgwyEtbRndj9IT3MJxnRbQ=; b=NqH/lDx7YKHGCHS3FSGLaEwmECUxg7qloWvD3stx5dya+TgxYIlvcPdKM1kKpmrGVT ID+JE/t29WCcty6ytbMEQtk98E0Bzscn7erfWkNrckNruTQDwEEloHJ6WauNbJ+IKvbt 0FuUPILqjzpZtSU0oALszW/CEag8Nq1np8/1ISgJh5PxgIZvK1XQbDfbsE2sf/hcT5rD OReub4Urm+bT7/kBnTTAZ4aWll5+Ua9R6b5ni/xNSnctfZtUhNEjilnAJvcG2A3UJs8Z ElxozNxp/NTWHGROE9RL/1LNRqTip2OkR3NLQlu56HnYlCKkQCEgjtBxqiJulStEb8iy nauQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g22si5131114edw.133.2021.02.19.00.02.51; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 00:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229639AbhBSIBN (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 19 Feb 2021 03:01:13 -0500 Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz ([46.255.230.98]:51194 "EHLO jabberwock.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229481AbhBSIBM (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Feb 2021 03:01:12 -0500 Received: by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix, from userid 1017) id F1B751C0B8A; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:00:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:00:27 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Ondrej Zary Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Jari Ruusu , Willy Tarreau , Scott Branden , Linux ARM , LKML , BCM Kernel Feedback Subject: Re: 5.10 LTS Kernel: 2 or 6 years? Message-ID: <20210219080027.GA12434@amd> References: <20210218205534.GA10201@duo.ucw.cz> <202102182343.36276.linux@zary.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202102182343.36276.linux@zary.sk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! > > > > For me > > > > only way to get properly working WiFi on my laptop computer is to > > > > compile that Intel out-of-tree version. Sad, but true. > > >=20 > > > Why use 4.19.y on a laptop in the firstplace? That feels very wrong = and > > > is not the recommended thing to use the LTS kernels for. > >=20 > > Well, that's actually what distributions are doing, for example Debian > > 10.8 is on 4.19... >=20 > There's 5.10 in buster-backports. That's probably the easiest way to get = support for new HW. > =20 I can compile my own kernel, too. But if you go up the thread, it is about iwlwifi becoming broken in 4.19, and Greg saying it is wrong to put -stable on laptop. And -stable on laptop is norm, not the exception. Pavel --=20 http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAmAvcBsACgkQMOfwapXb+vKULQCgryFXGNNKGnpKT+FWWox4Hbfm 9zMAoMHBptdPbLf7wAbiADdEp2IiWZB9 =kl2U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62--