Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964788AbWIZUcz (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:32:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964790AbWIZUcz (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:32:55 -0400 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:65247 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964788AbWIZUcy (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:32:54 -0400 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Adrian Bunk Subject: Re: When will the lunacy end? (Was Re: [PATCH] uswsusp: add pmops->{prepare,enter,finish} support (aka "platform mode")) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:35:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Cc: Pavel Machek , Andrew Morton , Nigel Cunningham , Stefan Seyfried , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20060925071338.GD9869@suse.de> <20060925224500.GB2540@elf.ucw.cz> <20060926201437.GH4547@stusta.de> In-Reply-To: <20060926201437.GH4547@stusta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609262235.14816.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1287 Lines: 35 On Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:14, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:45:00AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > >... > > solid) > > apart from HIGHMEM64G fiasco, and related agpgart fiasco long > > time before that... these are driver problems... > >... > > One point that seems to be a bit forgotten is that driver problems do > actually matter a lot: > > I for one do not care much whether I can abort suspending (I can always > resume) or whether dancing penguins are displayed during suspending - > but the fact that my saa7134 card only outputs the picture but no sound > after resuming from suspend-to-disk is a real show-stopper for me. Certainly, but neither me, nor Pavel can fix all drivers with suspend-related problems. I think the only way to get the drivers' problems fixed eventually is to file bug reports in bugzilla and generally complain about them to the people who write/maintain these drivers. Greetings, Rafael -- You never change things by fighting the existing reality. R. Buckminster Fuller - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/