Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964822AbWIZVb5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:31:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964823AbWIZVb5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:31:57 -0400 Received: from raven.upol.cz ([158.194.120.4]:35547 "EHLO raven.upol.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964822AbWIZVby (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:31:54 -0400 To: Lee Revell , Neil Brown , Michiel de Boer , James Bottomley , linux-kernel X-Posted-To: gmane.linux.kernel Subject: Re: GPLv3 Position Statement References: <1158941750.3445.31.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <451798FA.8000004@rebelhomicide.demon.nl> <17687.46268.156413.352299@cse.unsw.edu.au> <1159194447.2899.66.camel@mindpipe> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:32:08 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Debian) From: Oleg Verych X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.194.64.175 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: olecom@flower.upol.cz X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on flower); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Organization: Palacky University in Olomouc, experimental physics department. X-Image-Url: http://flower.upol.cz/~olecom/upol-cz.png Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1850 Lines: 43 Hallo, On 2006-09-25, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2006-09-25 at 20:51 +1000, Neil Brown wrote: >> Tolerance of binary blogs seems to be steadily dropping. >> [Binary bloGs. Yea, that's future of it (and XML) ;] >> As far as I can tell, the DVD-CSS is purely a legal issue today - the >> technical issues are solved (I can watch any-region on my Linux >> computer, and in Australia, the law requires that all DVD players must >> ignore region encoding as it is an anti-competitive practice). > > Tolerance by who? As far as I can tell tolerance for binary blobs by > the typical Linux desktop user is higher than ever. They consider it a > bug if their distro does not automagically install the nvidia/ATI > drivers, and immediately write you off as a GPL zealot if you even > mention that a tainted kernel cannot be debugged. This is not what Linux all about, as far as i can understand, reading lkml. Recall, please, linuxant MODULE_LICENSE("GPL\0 if bla-bla") case. Poor linux users, happy with stupid devices at low bandwidth and Working Drivers (tm). NV/ATI's driver _users_ are the same, *it's cool to be a kung-fu hacker* fashion. And don't tell me linux is desktop / game / home theater ready, please. It's nearly an orthogonal world by purpose and needs. (IMHO, of course) That fashion even affects Debian with all that firmware stuff. Invalid users (who cannot manage to have Debian installed without firmware, but loves it, server support for free or ever freedom; last is rare already) are in damn higher priority, than a 15 years of Social Contract. > Lee > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/