Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1031293AbWI1F1K (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1031310AbWI1F1K (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:10 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]:62385 "EHLO rwcrmhc15.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1031293AbWI1F1G (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:06 -0400 Subject: Re: GPLv3 Position Statement From: Sergey Panov To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Chase Venters , Linus Torvalds , Patrick McFarland , Theodore Tso , Alan Cox , Jan Engelhardt , James Bottomley , linux-kernel In-Reply-To: <451B5A59.9040806@garzik.org> References: <1158941750.3445.31.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <1159415242.13562.12.camel@sipan.sipan.org> <200609272339.28337.chase.venters@clientec.com> <451B5A59.9040806@garzik.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Home Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:03 -0400 Message-Id: <1159421223.13562.75.camel@sipan.sipan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 (2.6.3-1.fc5.5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1355 Lines: 29 On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 01:15 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Chase Venters wrote: > > I sympathize with Richard on his avoidance of "open-source". I don't > > necessarily take the same view, but I understand that his big concern is that > > the message he feels is important will be lost. I also think some of the > > things I've heard from the "open-source" side are too extreme - take, for > > instance, ESR's idea that we don't need the GPL license at all. That sounds > > like a nice world he's living in, but I'm not sure we're all on the same > > planet yet. > > ESR is a nutcase too. How did you manage to figure it out? > > The final GPLv3 may indeed go too far for many open-source supporters. But > > then again, it is the FSF's license, and it should at least not surprise > > anyone if they are more concerned with the ideals of the license rather than > > current market realities. Market conditions change; ideals generally don't. > > As long as you can admit that FSF is divorced from reality... ??? Ideals are always divorced from reality. But some shape it, and some are irrelevant. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/