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McKenney" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_T=F6pel?= Cc: bpf , LKML , stern@rowland.harvard.edu, parri.andrea@gmail.com, Will Deacon , Peter Zijlstra , boqun.feng@gmail.com, npiggin@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com, j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk, luc.maranget@inria.fr, akiyks@gmail.com, dlustig@nvidia.com, joel@joelfernandes.org, Toke =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= , "Karlsson, Magnus" Subject: Re: XDP socket rings, and LKMM litmus tests Message-ID: <20210302204157.GR2696@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org References: <20210302195758.GQ2696@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 09:24:04PM +0100, Bj?rn T?pel wrote: > On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 20:57, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 07:46:27PM +0100, Bj?rn T?pel wrote: > > [...] > > > > > Before digging in too deeply, does the following simplification > > still capture your intent? > > > > Thanks for having a look, Paul! > > > P0(int *prod, int *cons, int *data) > > { > > int p; > > int cond = 0; > > > > p = READ_ONCE(*prod); > > if (p == READ_ONCE(*cons)) > > cond = 1; > > With this, yes! > > > if (cond) { > > smp_mb(); > > WRITE_ONCE(*data, 1); > > smp_wmb(); > > WRITE_ONCE(*prod, p ^ 1); > > } > > } > > > > P1(int *prod, int *cons, int *data) > > { > > int c; > > int d = -1; > > int cond = 0; > > > > c = READ_ONCE(*cons); > > if (READ_ONCE(*prod) == c) > > cond = 1; > > Hmm, this would not be the correct state transition. > > c==1 && p==1 would set cond to 1, right? > > I would agree with: > c = READ_ONCE(*cons); > if (READ_ONCE(*prod) != c) Right you are! With that, it looks to me like LKMM is OK with removing the smp_mb(). My guess is that the issue is that LKMM confines the effect of control dependencies to a single "if" statement, hence my reworking of your original. Thanx, Paul > > > > if (cond == 1) { > > smp_rmb(); > > d = READ_ONCE(*data); > > smp_mb(); > > WRITE_ONCE(*cons, c ^ 1); > > } > > } > > > > Thanx, Paul > > > > [...] > > Bj?rn