Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422832AbWI2VsL (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:48:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422839AbWI2VsK (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:48:10 -0400 Received: from dp.samba.org ([66.70.73.150]:195 "EHLO lists.samba.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422832AbWI2VsI (ORCPT ); Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:48:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17693.37937.928098.495836@samba.org> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:46:25 +1000 To: davids@webmaster.com Cc: James Bottomley , linux-kernel Subject: Re: GPLv3 Position Statement In-Reply-To: <200609291454.k8TEsVJZ022006@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <1159512998.3880.50.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com> <200609291454.k8TEsVJZ022006@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 Reply-To: tridge@samba.org From: tridge@samba.org Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2221 Lines: 47 David, > That really is totally against the spirit of the GPL and, frankly, I think > it's the opposite of the attitude the free software community should be > taking. Not at all. Both tha free software communities and the open source communities have been taking this attitude for a very long time. When you release a patch to a LGPL program, what license do you choose for the patch? You could legally choose the GPL. You could post your GPL patch to the mailing list of the project and refuse to license it under the LGPL. That would be legal, but very annoying. Similarly for BSD licensed programs. When you patch those it is the norm to contribute patches under a BSD license. In both cases you are choosing the license the authors/maintainers of the program chose, and that helps in reducing the impact of the license proliferation we have at the moment. You are also doing the morally right thing by playing by the rules of the community you are participating in. You are acknowledging the "authors rights" to set the ground rules for the community they are running. I would defend the legal right of Linus or anyone else to do things that the GPLv2 legally allows on my GPLv2 code. That doesn't mean I have to like it, and it certainly doesn't mean I can't complain if I thought what was being done was unreasonable. So when I saw Linus advocating forking programs that are currently "v2 or later" and making them "v2 only", then I asked that he clarify to ensure that the major contributors to the project be consulted before doing that. Whether it is legal is beside the point - it is good manners to follow the ground rules of the people who write the code. Thankfully Linus has clarified that now in a later posting. I was already pretty sure he always intended for the major contributors to be consulted before a fork was done, but I'm glad its on the record so people don't start forking madly while flying a "Linus said its OK" banner :) Cheers, Tridge - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/