Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751248AbWJEA1Z (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Oct 2006 20:27:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751253AbWJEA1Z (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Oct 2006 20:27:25 -0400 Received: from madara.hpl.hp.com ([192.6.19.124]:58583 "EHLO madara.hpl.hp.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751248AbWJEA1Z (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Oct 2006 20:27:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:26:37 -0700 To: Linus Torvalds Cc: "John W. Linville" , Jeff Garzik , Lee Revell , Alessandro Suardi , Norbert Preining , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net Subject: Re: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing Message-ID: <20061005002637.GA5145@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20061003214038.GE23912@tuxdriver.com> <20061004181032.GA4272@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20061004185903.GA4386@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20061004195229.GA4459@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20061004204718.GA4599@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Jean Tourrilhes X-HPL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HPL-MailScanner-From: jt@hpl.hp.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1090 Lines: 24 On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 03:26:09PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > The very fact that this turned into a discussion is a sign that the ABI > breakage wasn't handled well enough. Usually, when we do something, nobody > ever even notices. There was the grand total of *ONE* user who was personally impacted by the userspace API change (the two other, one was hit by a bug, now fixed, one was hit because of kernel API change + external driver). And I immediately proposed to postpone the change to a later time. The people who contributed most to this tread were had not experienced any breakage. I don't know what conclusion to reach from that, and I don't understand why it took such proportions. Guessing the right time to deprecate an old API can be a trial and error process. So, we just have to wait for the release of FC6... Jean - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/