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Subject: Re: [PATCH] swiotlb: Add swiotlb=off to disable SWIOTLB
To:     Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
        linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
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From:   Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
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Date:   Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:53:37 +0000
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On 2021-03-18 19:43, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/18/2021 12:34 PM, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 2021-03-18 19:22, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/18/2021 12:18 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>> It may be useful to disable the SWIOTLB completely for testing or when a
>>>> platform is known not to have any DRAM addressing limitations what so
>>>> ever.
>>
>> Isn't that what "swiotlb=noforce" is for? If you're confident that we've
>> really ironed out *all* the awkward corners that used to blow up if
>> various internal bits were left uninitialised, then it would make sense
>> to just tweak the implementation of what we already have.
> 
> swiotlb=noforce does prevent dma_direct_map_page() from resorting to the
> swiotlb, however what I am also after is reclaiming these 64MB of
> default SWIOTLB bounce buffering memory because my systems run with
> large amounts of reserved memory into ZONE_MOVABLE and everything in
> ZONE_NORMAL is precious at that point.

It also forces io_tlb_nslabs to the minimum, so it should be claiming 
considerably less than 64MB. IIRC the original proposal *did* skip 
initialisation completely, but that turned up the aforementioned issues.

>> I wouldn't necessarily disagree with adding "off" as an additional alias
>> for "noforce", though, since it does come across as a bit wacky for
>> general use.
>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Christoph, in addition to this change, how would you feel if we
>>> qualified the swiotlb_init() in arch/arm/mm/init.c with a:
>>>
>>>
>>> if (memblock_end_of_DRAM() >= SZ_4G)
>>>      swiotlb_init(1)
>>
>> Modulo "swiotlb=force", of course ;)
> 
> Indeed, we would need to handle that case as well. Does it sound
> reasonable to do that to you as well?

I wouldn't like it done to me personally, but for arm64, observe what 
mem_init() in arch/arm64/mm/init.c already does.

Robin.