Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932166AbWJEQiE (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:38:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932164AbWJEQiE (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:38:04 -0400 Received: from madara.hpl.hp.com ([192.6.19.124]:237 "EHLO madara.hpl.hp.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932091AbWJEQiA (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:38:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 09:28:19 -0700 To: Alessandro Suardi Cc: Linus Torvalds , "John W. Linville" , Jeff Garzik , Lee Revell , Norbert Preining , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net Subject: Re: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing Message-ID: <20061005162819.GA6510@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20061004181032.GA4272@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20061004185903.GA4386@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20061004195229.GA4459@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20061004204718.GA4599@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20061005002637.GA5145@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <5a4c581d0610050820m11779c4er7a323cfec49cd39a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5a4c581d0610050820m11779c4er7a323cfec49cd39a@mail.gmail.com> Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Jean Tourrilhes X-HPL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HPL-MailScanner-From: jt@hpl.hp.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1526 Lines: 40 On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 03:20:06PM +0000, Alessandro Suardi wrote: > On 10/5/06, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > >On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 03:26:09PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> > >> The very fact that this turned into a discussion is a sign that the ABI > >> breakage wasn't handled well enough. Usually, when we do something, > >nobody > >> ever even notices. > > > > There was the grand total of *ONE* user who was personally > >impacted by the userspace API change (the two other, one was hit by a > >bug, now fixed, one was hit because of kernel API change + external > >driver). And I immediately proposed to postpone the change to a later > >time. > > And said user, being me, is currently running with upgraded userspace > without any issues (counting upgrading userspace as a non-issue). > > I originally logged my report as I do for other things that break or look > different in new snapshots, in order to provide early feedback to the > kernel developers - I guess it's the actual point of having snapshots > from kernel.org... Precisely. We are not omniscient. Based on your feedback, I decided to postpone WE-21. Your feedback was useful and appreciated. I will never blame the messenger. > Thanks, ciao, > > --alessandro Ciao... Jean - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/