Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751189AbWJEUKr (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:10:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751192AbWJEUKq (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:10:46 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:33156 "EHLO mx2.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751189AbWJEUKp (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Oct 2006 16:10:45 -0400 From: Andi Kleen To: Jeff Garzik Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: Please pull x86-64 bug fixes Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 22:10:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 Cc: discuss@x86-64.org, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200610051910.25418.ak@suse.de> <200610052142.29692.ak@suse.de> <452564B9.4010209@garzik.org> In-Reply-To: <452564B9.4010209@garzik.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610052210.39930.ak@suse.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1452 Lines: 36 On Thursday 05 October 2006 22:02, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Andi Kleen wrote: > > If the choice is between a secret NDA only card with dubious > > functionality and booting on lots of modern boards I know what to > > choose. > > That's a strawman argument. There is no need to choose. You can > clearly boot on lots of modern boards with mmconfig just fine. We just > need to narrow down which ones. You want a huge white list or what? And you volunteer to maintain it? My current thinking is to just wait for Vista certified machines and then use DMI year >= 2007 or so to enable it. Most likely your secret card won't ship before that anyways and maybe it can be even somehow used without MCFG. And if it can't it is out of luck right now. Send blame to the BIOS writers who are unable to get the MCFG tables right. I don't think white list is the right answer though. If it was only a small list of machines with broken BIOS it would be possible to black list, but Intel pretty much sabotated that by releasing a broken reference BIOS that is used in lots of different boards. I considered PCI ID checking for those chipsets instead of SMBIOS checking, but that has other problems too. -Andi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/