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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] signal: don't allow sending any signals to PF_IO_WORKER threads
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>> The creds should be reasonably in-sync with the rest of the threads.
>
> It's not about credentials (despite the -EPERM).
>
> It's about the fact that kernel threads cannot handle signals, and
> then get caught in endless loops of "if (sigpending()) return
> -EAGAIN".
>
> For a normal user thread, that "return -EAGAIN" (or whatever) will end
> up returning an error to user space - and before it does that, it will
> go through the "oh, returning to user space, so handle signal" path.
> Which will clear sigpending etc.
>
> A thread that never returns to user space fundamentally cannot handle
> this. The sigpending() stays on forever, the signal never gets
> handled, the thread can't do anything.
>
> So delivering a signal to a kernel thread fundamentally cannot work
> (although we do have some threads that explicitly see "oh, if I was
> killed, I will exit" - think things like in-kernel nfsd etc).

I agree that getting a kernel thread to receive a signal is quite
tricky.  But that is not what the patch affects.

The patch covers the case when instead of specifying the pid of the
process to kill(2) someone specifies the tid of a thread.  Which implies
that type is PIDTYPE_TGID, and in turn the signal is being placed on the
t->signal->shared_pending queue.  Not the thread specific t->pending
queue.

So my question is since the signal is delivered to the process as a
whole why do we care if someone specifies the tid of a kernel thread,
rather than the tid of a userspace thread?

Eric