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From:   Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
Date:   Tue, 23 Mar 2021 11:01:06 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] RFC: create mailing list "linux-issues"
 focussed on issues/bugs and regressions
To:     Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
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        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 04:58, Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info> wrote:
> >  If we can
> > actually get users to *read* it, I think it's going to save kernel
> > developers a huge amount of time and frustration.
>
> And users hopefully as well. But yes, making them read it is the
> problem. :-/

I've added a very visible admonition on the front of
bugzilla.kernel.org. Hopefully, it will help direct some users to
their distro bug trackers first.

> > I wonder if it might be useful to have a form which users could be
> > encouraged to fill out so that (a) the information is available in a
> > structured format so it's easier for developers to find the relevant
> > information, (b) so it is easier for programs to parse, for easier
> > reporting or indexing, and (c) as a nudge so that users remember to
> > report critical bits of information such as the hardware
> > configuration, the exact kernel version, which distribution userspace
> > was in use, etc.
> >
> > There could also be something in the text form which would make it
> > easier for lore.kernel.org searches to identify bug reports.  (e.g.,
> > "LINUX KERNEL BUG REPORTER TEMPLATE")
>
> Hmmm, yeah, I like that idea. I'll keep it in mind for later: I would
> prefer to get reporting-issues.rst officially blessed and
> reporting-bugs.rst gone before working on further enhancements.

To my knowledge, git project uses a tool for that:
https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bugreport

Theoretically, a similar tool could exist for the kernel.

-K